Horn & Downes allude to 3rd 'Buggles' album & tour!

[Rufus]

Horn & Downes revealed they recorded some demos earlier this year & their management says there will be Buggles re-issues & a tour in 2017. Horn also has other projects completed & ready for release incl. a musical 'A Day in the Life of a Recording Studio' co-penned with Lol Crème.

He also has this to say about YES, ''I liked lots of other prog, like Caravan and Genesis, although never as much as YES because the rhythm section was never as interesting. I'd never heard anything like them before & I've not heard anything like them since''.

Source is the latest issue of Prog Magazine!

[calyx]

Of additional interest to prog fans is the mooted involvement of Steve Howe, which could even extent to live activity.

[Rufus]

Of additional interest to prog fans is the mooted involvement of Steve Howe, which could even extent to live activity.

Yes, here's the quote, 'It is believed that members of YES are to be involved, ''Especially certain guitar players'', Horn told Prog, possibly hinting at his long-term associate Steve Howe.

[2steves]

Horn & Downes revealed they recorded some demos earlier this year & their management says there will be Buggles re-issues & a tour in 2017. Horn also has other projects completed & ready for release incl. a musical 'A Day in the Life of a Recording Studio' co-penned with Lol Crème.

He also has this to say about YES, ''I liked lots of other prog, like Caravan and Genesis, although never as much as YES because the rhythm section was never as interesting. I'd never heard anything like them before & I've not heard anything like them since''.

Source is the latest issue of Prog Magazine!

Rhythm section and cool groove is what got me into Yes too.

[Nearfest2]

This could be pretty cool!

How is Horn's Producers album?

[ProgArtist]

The first Buggles album is a favorite of mine, which I knew even before I had heard of Yes (as a teenager in the late 80s/early 90s). Downes' keyboard work is wonderful, and his lesser involvement on the second album is partially why it's just not nearly as good. The electronic drums don't help, either. I'll be interested to see what they can conjure up on this new album. Given that I think "Fly From Here" is very solid, I'm optimistic.

[Rufus]

This could be pretty cool!

How is Horn's Producers album?

I love it, my interest has really been piqued of the impending musical he's written with Lol Crème!

[bondegezou]

How is Horn's Producers album?

A very good pop album, full of the Horn sound you'd expect. It's a little bit like a grown-up Buggles album. Three Horn-penned tracks about his wife's accident (Your Life"/"Every Single Night in Jamaica"/"Garden of Flowers") are heart-rendingly beautiful. There's also a nice opener from Horn in "Freeway" that chugs along, Soan/Creme's "Barking Up the Right Tree" is a lovely 10cc-esque love song, and bonus track "Seven" is the proggiest and most Buggles like piece. I think some of the Braide-penned numbers (e.g. "Man on the Moon", "Stay Elaine") are more so-so though.

Henry

[Scott Bails]

I pretty much agree with Henry's review. But I often listen to the Producers' album with the two Downes/Braide Association albums together, as they all have a very similar sound, and I think Braide's work on DBA is much better than his contributions to the Producers.

[bondegezou]

Of additional interest to prog fans is the mooted involvement of Steve Howe, which could even extent to live activity.

I couldn't quite parse what the Prog article was saying. I think it's saying Howe will be in the live band but that it doesn't say anything about him being involved in studio work, although the latter must be fairly likely if the former. It hints at maybe other Yes members being involved too.

The article also has that studio work so far is re-interpretations of Adventures in Modern Recording-period numbers (e.g. "Vermillion Sands" from the album and "Dion", a demo on the 2010 re-release of the album), but Downes earlier in the year implied new songs as well...? I listened to Adventures yesterday and decided that all the Horn/Downes songs are good, but all the material without Downes is weak!

Other quotes at http://www.bondegezou.co.uk/wnalum.htm#buggles

Henry

[bondegezou]

Downes' keyboard work is wonderful, and his lesser involvement on the second album is partially why it's just not nearly as good.

Indeed.


I pretty much agree with Henry's review. But I often listen to the Producers' album with the two Downes/Braide Association albums together, as they all have a very similar sound, and I think Braide's work on DBA is much better than his contributions to the Producers.

Yes, also agreed. DBA were sort of a spin-off from Producers after all!

Henry

[calyx]

The article also has that studio work so far is re-interpretations of Adventures in Modern Recording-period numbers (e.g. "Vermillion Sands" from the album

Which, it has to be noted, was initially written for the follow-up to "Drama", which it seems was an option until some time after the 1980 tour.

[Scott Bails]

I actually prefer AiMR to the debut.

[Drake]

This could be pretty cool!

How is Horn's Producers album?

I absolutely love Garden of Flowers. Brilliantly composed, brilliant vocals and beautiful lyrics. Not too impressed by the rest of that album, though.

[Paulrus]

I couldn't quite parse what the Prog article was saying. I think it's saying Howe will be in the live band but that it doesn't say anything about him being involved in studio work, although the latter must be fairly likely if the former. It hints at maybe other Yes members being involved too.

The article also has that studio work so far is re-interpretations of Adventures in Modern Recording-period numbers (e.g. "Vermillion Sands" from the album and "Dion", a demo on the 2010 re-release of the album), but Downes earlier in the year implied new songs as well...? I listened to Adventures yesterday and decided that all the Horn/Downes songs are good, but all the material without Downes is weak!

Other quotes at http://www.bondegezou.co.uk/wnalum.htm#buggles

Henry

Yeah, I couldn't really understand what the hell the article was saying either.

As for Adventures in Modern Recording I agree that it's very spotty. Definitely one for Yes freak/completists only (/raises hand). The reissue with all the bonus tracks (including "Fly From Here") is a step up from the original, but for my money the debut kicks its butt.

[yamishogun]

I actually prefer AiMR to the debut.

I was just going to write the same thing.

I bought AiMR because I liked the youtube version of Fly From Here I and II a year before the then new Yes album and also got the debut album. I put away the debut without listening to it and spent time with AiMR. I prefer the original 10 minute vesrion of FFH I and II to the 23 minute suite apart from liking one added part -- too bad that wasn't a 16 minute song instead of a 23 minute one. There is also a starkness I like on the original that I like better than the album version Chris Squire called turning a pop song into something with more substance. The pop song works better.

Anyway, at first all I liked was FFH I and II and I am a Camera. I slowly got into one song then another and lo and behold... I liked the entire disk. After a while I went to the debut album and aside from VKtRS I couldn't get into it. I'll try again, but I've now bought AiMR twice due to an unfortunate scratch. (See that Henry? I bought the CD twice! :D )

Edit: I'm talking about the 18 track version released in 2010. I like every weird track on that in addition to the outstanding FFH I and II.

[rickawakeman]

I had not previously been aware of Trevor Horn's wife's tragic accident and subsequent death. As our people say, "may her memory be a blessing."

[bondegezou]

Edit: I'm talking about the 18 track version released in 2010. I like every weird track on that in addition to the outstanding FFH I and II.

The bonus tracks tend to be stuff written with Downes, which is why they're good and the 2010 version better than the original album. The filler, I'd argue, are the tracks Horn did with Darlow.

Henry

[yamishogun]

The bonus tracks tend to be stuff written with Downes, which is why they're good and the 2010 version better than the original album. The filler, I'd argue, are the tracks Horn did with Darlow.

Henry

Wiki doesn't list who did the bonus tracks. Which of those was with Darlow?

[bondegezou]

Wiki doesn't list who did the bonus tracks. Which of those was with Darlow?

Don't check Wikipedia! Go straight to the Yescography: http://www.relayer35.com/Yescography/adventur.htm

Henry

[yamishogun]

Don't check Wikipedia! Go straight to the Yescography: http://www.relayer35.com/Yescography/adventur.htm

Henry

Well, wiki is the first stop... Thanks for the link.

[malgeo]

I always thought it was interesting that "Into the Lens" was credited to Downes/Horn/Howe/Squire/White while "I Am a Camera" was credited only to Horn/Downes. They are, of course, essentially the same song, and while Horn/Downes presumably brought it to the Drama sessions, it was released on Drama before it was released on the second Buggles album. It seems Howe/Squire/White could have claimed a writing credit for the version that the Buggles released.

[bondegezou]

^ This takes us back to the recent discussion on another thread about when Yes decided to just credit everything to the group and when they didn't.

Henry

[malgeo]

I understand why Yes decided to credit "Into the Lens" to the group. It just seems odd that, on a subsequent release, Howe/Squire/White were "un-credited."

[bondegezou]

I understand why Yes decided to credit "Into the Lens" to the group. It just seems odd that, on a subsequent release, Howe/Squire/White were "un-credited."

It was their song. I imagine the Adventures version is close to (and possibly just is) their original, pre-Yes recording. On Drama, the credits were subsumed into the greater whole. Back on their own territory, they no longer had to stick to that, I guess.

Henry

[dregsfan]

Also, the Drama version has MUCH more instrumental moments. While some might call that arranging, I think the additions are substantial enough to warrant writing credits for H/S/W.

[ProgArtist]

Also, the Drama version has MUCH more instrumental moments. While some might call that arranging, I think the additions are substantial enough to warrant writing credits for H/S/W.

Exactly my thoughts as well.

[BravadoNJ]

if there's still leftover material from years ago..... save it for a new Yes album.

[nosebone]

I actually prefer AiMR to the debut.

So do I..., by a mile!

[nosebone]

I always thought it was interesting that "Into the Lens" was credited to Downes/Horn/Howe/Squire/White while "I Am a Camera" was credited only to Horn/Downes. They are, of course, essentially the same song, and while Horn/Downes presumably brought it to the Drama sessions, it was released on Drama before it was released on the second Buggles album. It seems Howe/Squire/White could have claimed a writing credit for the version that the Buggles released.

Horn/Downes left out all of the YES additives on AIMR.

[Dedatolo]

This could be pretty cool!

How is Horn's Producers album?

It was my summer album last year (or the year before ? time flies...), I love it and still listen to it regularly. I want more !

[bondegezou]

It was my summer album last year (or the year before ? time flies...), I love it and still listen to it regularly. I want more !

They did two live shows this summer, although they've now dropped Producers and are just the Trevor Horn Band. There don't appear to be any imminent plans for another album, although I imagine some of the same people will be involved in the new Buggles work. After that we're expecting the Horn/Creme musical, "A Day in the Life of a Recording Studio", again probably with the same people (and obviously with Horn and Creme).

Chris Braide, who was part of the writing for that first album, has now moved to the States. He's done two albums with Geoff Downes that are quite similar to the Producers album. He's also got the This Oceanic Feeling project with Producers' Ash Soan and bassist Lee Pomeroy (currently in Anderson Rabin Wakeman).

Henry

[Scott Bails]

Chris Braide, who was part of the writing for that first album, has now moved to the States. He's done two albums with Geoff Downes that are quite similar to the Producers album. He's also got the This Oceanic Feeling project with Producers' Ash Soan and bassist Lee Pomeroy (currently in Anderson Rabin Wakeman).

Henry

Forgot about This Oceanic Feeling. They fit in nicely with the Buggles/Producers/DBA stuff, too.

[jefftiger]

I really appreciate those who contributed to this thread. I had never heard of The Producers album. I've been listening to it a lot in the last week and I remain very impressed with it. After watching Horn's "Prince's Trust" concert on DVD a few months ago, I've become a big fan of his, having also rediscovered his earlier Buggles albums. I actually liked "Drama" when it was released. I wasn't very bright in those days; I remember my grad school roommate who bought the album telling me, "You do know that that's not Jon Anderson singing!". I didn't realize it at first!

[yamishogun]

I wasn't very bright in those days; I remember my grad school roommate who bought the album telling me, "You do know that that's not Jon Anderson singing!". I didn't realize it at first!

I knew others sang in Yes including Trevor Horn on 90125, and it didn't occur to me for a while that Jon Anderson wasn't on it.

[malgeo]

I just came across this weird, hilarious, and deeply disturbing version of Video Killed the Radio Star:

https://youtu.be/f9FNJcGrBbg

[bondegezou]

I just came across this weird, hilarious, and deeply disturbing version of Video Killed the Radio Star:

https://youtu.be/f9FNJcGrBbg

That is the most disturbed I've been in months.

Henry