Tangerine Dream - Oh my!

[r2daft2]

I’m sure that some will disagree but I do think a good way to put together a collection of Tangerine Dream’s music is by picking up “value-for money” compilations from each of their associations with various record companies.

Personally I’ve got the “Sunrise in the Third System” 2CD set which nicely covers The Pink Years 1970-73.
I have the “Dream Sequence” 2CD set which covered much of the Virgin Years 1974-83 but has since been replaced by the two “Virgin Years” Box sets (3CDs and 5CDs respectively).
I have the “From Dusk ‘til Dawn” CD as a taster of The Blue Years 1984-88 and the “Private Music of Tangerine Dream” CD to cover the Melrose Years 1988-90.
Finally I have the “Tang-go” 2CD set which covers the years 1988-2000 (repeating just a couple of tracks from the Melrose albums).

That’s a LOT of TD when you consider that every CD is filled to near full capacity.

From what I’ve read I’m probably missing out by not having any of the earlier film soundtracks and I could do with searching out a couple of additional albums from the Blue Years (Poland & Livemiles come to mind). It would also be nice to have a representative collection of recent works by the current touring band. I haven’t heard any of EF’s solo albums either.

I know compilations aren’t everyone’s bag but I simply don’t recognise any poor continuity when listening to compilations of electronic instrumentals - providing they don’t appear in short abridged excerpts.

[GuitarGeek]

http://www.voices-in-the-net.de/_overture.htm

Apparently it was chopped up and tangentized on Antique Dreams.

The Tangerine Tree vol 41 "Space Is The Place" has it.

TT 41 doesn't just have the Overture, it has the entire Oedipus Tyrannus suite, which was recorded in the mid 70's for a play, but to the best of my knowledge, only Overture was ever issued legitimately.

[rcarlberg]

I’m sure that some will disagree but I do think a good way to put together a collection of Tangerine Dream’s music is by picking up “value-for money” compilations from each of their associations with various record companies.

Personally I’ve got the “Sunrise in the Third System” 2CD set which nicely covers The Pink Years 1970-73.
I have the “Dream Sequence” 2CD set which covered much of the Virgin Years 1974-83 but has since been replaced by the two “Virgin Years” Box sets (3CDs and 5CDs respectively).
I have the “From Dusk ‘til Dawn” CD as a taster of The Blue Years 1984-88 and the “Private Music of Tangerine Dream” CD to cover the Melrose Years 1988-90.
Finally I have the “Tang-go” 2CD set which covers the years 1988-2000 (repeating just a couple of tracks from the Melrose albums).

That’s a LOT of TD when you consider that every CD is filled to near full capacity.

From what I’ve read I’m probably missing out by not having any of the earlier film soundtracks and I could do with searching out a couple of additional albums from the Blue Years (Poland & Livemiles come to mind). It would also be nice to have a representative collection of recent works by the current touring band. I haven’t heard any of EF’s solo albums either.

I know compilations aren’t everyone’s bag but I simply don’t recognise any poor continuity when listening to compilations of electronic instrumentals - providing they don’t appear in short abridged excerpts.

The only one of these I'm familiar with is "Dream Sequence" and if I recall correctly it's not the original recordings. Wasn't it all remakes?

[Birdy]

The only one of these I'm familiar with is "Dream Sequence" and if I recall correctly it's not the original recordings. Wasn't it all remakes?

No, they were all originals. Some were excerpts of full side-long tracks.

[olias]

I think most fans of the Stratosfear through Force Majeure era should probably love Tangram as well. That was the last great TD album, IMO, though to be honest I haven't heard anything past Le Parc or so.

[battema]

The only one of these I'm familiar with is "Dream Sequence" and if I recall correctly it's not the original recordings. Wasn't it all remakes?

I think you may be thinking of Tangents, from the mid-90's...and the source of the phrase "Tangentization" for E. Froese's knack for adding digital stuff all over the original recordings.

[GuitarGeek]

I think most fans of the Stratosfear through Force Majeure era should probably love Tangram as well. That was the last great TD album, IMO, though to be honest I haven't heard anything past Le Parc or so.

You don't have two listen to 2 and a half decades of sludge to know it's there.

[dropforge]

New release: Raum

Opening track: "Continuum" (Hoshiko Yamane, Paul Frick, Thorsten Quaeschning)

[Dave (in MA)]

I share the dislike of the direction they took after Optical Race, but they started heading in the right direction about a dozen years ago, and I think people who don't bother checking them out could be missing some good music.

[dropforge]

I share the dislike of the direction they took after Optical Race, but they started heading in the right direction about a dozen years ago, and I think people who don't bother checking them out could be missing some good music.

Thank Thorsten. I credit him with mostly steering the ship back. I think it's safe to say that's why Jerome left. Those two didn't see eye to eye. The irony is that Jerome formed Loom with Johannes Schmoelling!

[dropforge]

Fourth track. This might be the most "Tangerine Dream" bit I've heard from anything under the banner in years. And the sounds are delicious.

Three of the tracks have Edgar's credit on them, but like "Continuum," this isn't one of them.

[Dave (in MA)]

The irony is that Jerome formed Loom with Johannes Schmoelling!

Which didn't last long.

[dropforge]

Which didn't last long.

Nope, it didn't. But Jerome was somehow a better guitarist. He seemed better suited to his role in Loom than in the band where he served as conductor.

[Dave (in MA)]

I haven't checked lately, but don't recall ever coming across a way to acquire LOOM, or later, SAW recordings without paying a premium. It'd be nice if they put them up on Bandcamp or something.

[dropforge]

I haven't checked lately, but don't recall ever coming across a way to acquire LOOM, or later, SAW recordings without paying a premium. It'd be nice if they put them up on Bandcamp or something.

I like the first live 2CD, Scored. I think that's worth the dosh ($30, I figure). The studio album, The Tree Hates the Forest, didn't really grab me. I'd preview the whole thing first. I know John likes it a lot.

The first two CDEPs are unavailable, but I'll be brutally honest, you don't need them. I didn't get the third, 300 003, which has three exclusive tracks. That's going to be a fifty buck disc if somebody really wants it. Probably the best originals Loom made, though.

[battema]

Sometime in the last six months or so, Jerome mentioned that Loom wasn't completely past-tense yet, and that he, Johannes and Robert had gotten together. No idea what came of that, but I'd not complain about a new EP or album.

Loom stuff ISN'T cheap at all...I think Schmoelling's label Viktoriapark is the only place that carries them regularly. I do like their sound though...there was a track on the 2nd EP called Jet that had a real Thief vibe to me (youtube.com/watch?v=MJzpKa6Pzxc).

I do miss Ulrich Schnauss on Raum, but overall it's another actually really good to great TD album. Ironic because it's unlikely these albums would exist in this form were Froese still alive.

[dropforge]

Sometime in the last six months or so, Jerome mentioned that Loom wasn't completely past-tense yet, and that he, Johannes and Robert had gotten together. No idea what came of that, but I'd not complain about a new EP or album.

I didn't know that. Loom needs to release something that, I dunno, rivals Le Parc or something.

[battema]

Someone would need to convince Johannes to skip the analog gear and dust off the Emulator II and Fairlight

Which I would be 100% ok with.

[dropforge]

Someone would need to convince Johannes to skip the analog gear and dust off the Emulator II and Fairlight

Which I would be 100% ok with.

I'm down. 'Sides, Jo-Schmo has never not fired up da Joop.

[Enidi]

I remember having the first cd release of The Zoo Of Tranquility by Johannes Schmolleing and then he re-recorded it and released it a second time..which was good and I love it..but I no longer have the first version. I must have traded it. What a jackass..I can't believe I'd trade something like that.

I have to dig out Poland. I haven't listened to it in years. I did buy many Tangerine Dream cds released after Tangram..and continued following their music during the 80s , 90s..I did enjoy sections of it. Some of Le Parc felt like it was stylistically based off Pink Floyd D.S.O.T.M and W.Y.W.H. period..it may have been the vocals and the chord progression.

Live Logos was adventurous because it was rhythmical with soundsapes interspersed and a constant flow of dynamic Electronic Music... I collected many cds by Robert Schroder and Software on the Innovative Communication label . It was obvious that both artists were taking on the Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze sound..and additionally the early Neuronium and Space Rock bands in Europe seemed to reveal the style of TD in their music.

Where artists like Walter Christian Rothe, Jose Fernandez Ledesma, Pauline Anna Strom, Larry Fast, ...were influenced by Berlin school to a lesser degree and focused more on creating music that felt generally different when listened to.

[dropforge]

I remember having the first cd release of The Zoo Of Tranquility by Johannes Schmolleing and then he re-recorded it and released it a second time..which was good and I love it..but I no longer have the first version. I must have traded it. What a jackass..I can't believe I'd trade something like that.

You can find that without any trouble. *Just* in case you don't know, the '88 original got a remaster in 2010. That's not the '98 rerecording.

Where artists like Walter Christian Rothe, Jose Fernandez Ledesma, Pauline Anna Strom, Larry Fast, ...were influenced by Berlin school to a lesser degree and focused more on creating music that felt generally different when listened to.

Yeah, Synergy is so not Berlin School. As with Vangelis, it's nice to have stuff that sounds different.

[Enidi]

You can find that without any trouble. *Just* in case you don't know, the '88 original got a remaster in 2010. That's not the '98 rerecording.




Yeah, Synergy is so not Berlin School. As with Vangelis, it's nice to have stuff that sounds different.

I didn't know that...thanks for pointing that out!! I want the 88' release for sure. Unfortunately I have no Synergy and it looks as if the cds are long out of print and the price is a little outrageous . Vangelis I have about 30 cds , but I don't have any of his collaborations. He's really diverse in styles of composition. Sections of Ignacio sound like the darker side of Popol Vuh and certain pieces on Albeado 0.39 are not too distant from sounding like ELP. ...more like the Electronic Music version of ELP. ...yet Vangelis is playing drums...it's so different. I never owned "The Bounty" on LP in the 80s and I have only the opening and closing pieces on Themes. Another artist...( can't recall his name), recorded Vangelis' interpretation of "The Bounty" ..but no release date on Vangelis so far. Why?

[AncientChord]

I prefer the early efforts of TD. The original band ethos was creating LSD induced electronic improvs using the most modern keyboards of the time, and the surreal symphonic soundscapes they created were amazing. No drum beats or familiar music motifs, and somehow it all came together. IMO some of the best of electronic prog. I was very fortunate to see them in concert in 1977 and 1980. RIP Edgar.

[Trane]

I prefer the early efforts of TD. The original band ethos was creating LSD induced electronic improvs using the most modern keyboards of the time, and the surreal symphonic soundscapes they created were amazing. No drum beats or familiar music motifs, and somehow it all came together. IMO some of the best of electronic prog. I was very fortunate to see them in concert in 1977 and 1980. RIP Edgar.

Yup, the "Pink Years" are still my fave, though I love everything until Force Majeure (included) before it becomes "mmeeeehhh!!!..." for me - and TBH, after (the aptly-titled) Exit, I jumped off the wagon.

Been listening to the recent YT stuff posted here, and TBH, it's really not my dope... Sounds way to new-agey for my neurons.

[dropforge]

Been listening to the recent YT stuff posted here, and TBH, it's really not my dope... Sounds way to new-agey for my neurons.

The violin and sequences kill it for ya, eh?