A Samla / Zamla Thread!

[Zeuhlmate]

Ask Wolfgang?
https://www.salomon-online.de/wordpress/

[Scrotum Scissor]

Oh, my brother.

Reasons would have me stumble upon this simply -ace- live recording of the Samlas doing Oslo in January 1974, presenting some Måltid and more Knapitatet plus odds unheard and improvs. Sound quality complies with NRK standards of the day (Norsk Rikskringkasting/Norwegian Broadcasting Service), seeing as many of the student festival events at the venue in question (Chateau Neuf; adjacent to the university at Blindern) were indeed documented by recording, if certainly not always committed to aether. In addition there's a recording of them doing "Liten Dialektik" from September of that same year.

Did anyone in here even know about this? I personally was never aware of its existence - at all. What a fantastic find!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAV2kGF__xc

[Czyszy]

Trivia: in Swedish Samla and Zamla are pronounced exactly the same, 'cause in Swedish there's no phonetic distinction between z and s.

[Steve F.]

Trivia: in Swedish Samla and Zamla are pronounced exactly the same, 'cause in Swedish there's no phonetic distinction between z and s.

Didn’t know that. Thanks!

[Steve F.]

Did anyone in here even know about this? I personally was never aware of its existence - at all. What a fantastic find!

There are a good number of high quality 70s broadcasts by the band.

When I visited Uppsala and Lars in 2001 (?), he played me a little bit of exactly this show, which a record label had sent him in hopes of getting an ok for release.

He asked me what I thought and I said it was great. He then said something like, “well, it’s all a long time in the past and I don’t think anyone really cares….”

When I had approached him a couple of years earlier about the Radio Bremen thing that became 1983, he said much of the same things and said that he wasn’t interested. Then he had me make an offer for what eventually became the reunion studio album Kaka. Several offers; this went on for a few months at least. But he didn’t tell me that he was mostly just interested in my offer for the benefit of showing it to the Swedish label he was already speaking to, and using that to get a better deal from them because of it!!

When I later found out that that’s what was going on, and that he was sort of yanking my chain without being particularly honest about it, I politely pointed out to him that that was pretty bad form. I guess I made him feel a little bit guilty, because a few weeks later he wrote back and said something like, “Well, maybe we can revisit that Von Zamla idea”.

And that’s how our relationship began!

[NogbadTheBad]

Great story Steve

[Steve F.]

Great story Steve

Thanks! It’s 100% true, to the very best of my memory!

[Bill_in_Cle]

The main page of the ReR Megacorp site is listing (as "New Titles") 3 Samla/Zamla CDs.
https://www.rermegacorp.com/

SAMMLA MAMMAS MANNA
ZAMLA MAMMAZ MANNA - FamilyCracks
SAMLA MAMMAS MANNA - Maltid
(£12.50 each)

Each has the Silence records catalog number from previous issues. None of the CDs are available at the Silence website:
https://silence.se/en/artist/samla-m...-mammaz-manna/

Maybe this is rediscovered old inventory and not the start of a new reissue series?
Anyone have more info?

[Steve F.]

Hi Bill

Those SMM albums never really went away; they have been more or less available on CD in exactly the same version, since they were originally released.

AFAIK, there is no new series or updated versions of them coming; like you speculated, an old, forgotten box probably fell out from on top of the refrigerator…,

[Bill_in_Cle]

Is there any likelihood of Samla/Hollmer archival (live) releases? At this late date, maybe not on CD but digital would be OK.

[Steve F.]

Is there any likelihood of Samla/Hollmer archival (live) releases? At this late date, maybe not on CD but digital would be OK.

i am completely not in the know, but who would do this (co-ordinate it) or go through the archives or get approval from everyone?

My Magic 8-Ball says 'outlook not so good'.

It's hard enough doing archival things when people are alive; it generally gets harder once they are not.

[Bill_in_Cle]

I agree (regarding the above post).

It would have to start with former band members and surviving family who believe the music worth preserving and then they would have to convince others that there is some market for the archival recordings.

There were many concerts recorded and one would think there are other worthy performances from those shows than just the (mainly improv) bonus tracks added to Samla CDs.

Oh, well, it is out of my hands, but it seems a shame if those recordings are lost to posterity.

[Steve F.]

Oh, well, it is out of my hands, but it seems a shame if those recordings are lost to posterity.

Bill, so much is lost that it isn’t even believable.

But the sad truth is that there just isn’t enough of a market for it to make the survival feasible.

[Snikle]

I listened to Maltid back in July or August, but went back for more after reading through this thread. I still haven't heard all the albums, but Klossa Knapitatet and Familjesprickor are both even better than Maltid was, which I already enjoyed.

[Zeuhlmate]

IMO they got much more interesting when guitarist Eino Haapala (RIP) replaced Coste Apetrea.
Read: The were good with Coste, but got even better with Eino.