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    Quote Originally Posted by progmatist View Post
    I've always recognized streaming services like Paramount+, Peacock, Disney+, Discovery+, CNN+, et cetera, et al are media companies slowly transitioning every broadcast and basic cable channel into a premium channel. I've always refused to be dragged down that rabbit hole.
    Believe me, I completely understand. But so far I've only subscribed to 2½ services: Netlix, Disney+ (I forget which), and Paramount+. The half is Netflix, which I share the cost of. I only subscribed to Disney+ for a couple of months and dropped it once I was finished with a show; when it comes back next year, I'll subscribe again for a month or two. Paramount+ is the only one I subscribed to myself and only because of soccer. I'm not thrilled by that but don't really have a choice in the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMWeasel View Post
    Yeah, as a huge Trekkie
    Wait. I thought it was "Trekker". Keith, you disappoint me.

    ...unfortunately for better or worse I'm kinda tied to app -- they took all of the series off of Netflix now, except Deep Space Nine, which I think will be off soon enough. I have a fiber connection here at my house and yet while watching a trek episode, it will typically pause to have to buffer again sometimes 2-3 times an episode, and meanwhile I'm getting speeds of like 300mbps off my router.
    I've seen that's a common criticism with Paramount+.

    I also read that unloading and the reloading the app can fix buffering issues. Also, check for an update. If all else fails, delete it and then reinstall it.

    So far, I've only had one issue of buffering and that was watching a live soccer match. I think I missed about 5 seconds of it. Otherwise, I haven't had any issues.

    BTW, when I clicked on the button for the ST hub, DS9 was there. Checking Netflix, just now, it's there, too. So it's currently on both.

    I did a test of their app a while ago and these are the results:
    • checked to see if exiting out of a movie, as opposed to a sports replay, would provide the ability to resume. Nope. Every other streaming app that I know of has a resume function. Talk about lame.
    • fast forwarded to ¾ of the way through a movie using the navigation ring instead of the fast forward button because it's faster. After switching to play, the sound kept going in and out and the movie would pause a half second and then jump ahead a half second, skipping frames as it did. Did that repeatedly. Tried pausing and then playing again. Didn't fix it. Tried jumping forward and back 10, 20, or 30 seconds and that didn't work, either. Had to exit out of the movie and start playing again to get it to play properly.
    • tried fast forwarding using the FF button, instead, and the previous problem didn't reappear.
    • even tho I signed up for the basic tier, which has ads, there were none in the movie. That surprised me. So that's a huge plus.
    • a partial plus is ads aren't repeated when watching a TV show. I brought up the display that includes the progress bar. You can see notches in it where the ad breaks are. After getting through the ad break, there's a white line that appears in the notch. So, if you go back to before the ad break you won't have to watch those particular ads again when you get to that part, just like IMDb. I watched a movie on IMDb, once, and fast forwarded to the credits. When I pressed play, all the ads in the previous ad breaks played all at once. When they were done and the movie resumed, I rewound back to the beginning and was able to watch the movie without any ad breaks.
    • pausing seems to be unlimited. With most other apps on a Fire Stick, if you pause too long, the show will unpause and/or the Fire Stick goes to sleep. I've never seen it actually happen so I'm not sure which happens. So, I consider that a plus given the lack of a resume function.

    Likewise, the picture quality on voyager for example is like watching it in 480p on UPN in 1997.
    That is totally unacceptable. Because of your comment, the show I watched during my test was Voyager. It looks like DVD quality to me. But I also started with S4, not S1. Because... well... Seven.

    Now that I've had a chance to evaluate it better, Paramount's player isn't nearly as bad as I originally thought. Indeed, you can jump back (or forward) in 10 second increments, which I rely on like oxygen. Just about every other app has this ability, too. Netflix got rid of it a year or two ago... sorta. It actually still works but not like any other app. If you want to jump back 10 seconds, you hit the back button twice and then go forward once. And it doesn't actually go back 10 seconds. It goes back to the nearest 10 second point. For instance, say you're 15:37 into a show and you wanted to jump back 10 seconds. You wouldn't actually jump back to 15:27, you'd jump back to 15:30. Once you get to an even 10 second point, then it jumps in 10 second intervals. It's weird. And stupid.

    Paramount's lack of resume is a major fail. How many times have any of you had to quit watching something because you started nodding off or one of your rugrats started messing with the remote or your cat stepped on it? How they didn't think to include the ability to resume is a complete mystery... or was just simply incompetence. Otherwise it's a decent app, from what I've seen. So I take back what I said about it being shitty. I may amend that again if I start having buffering issues like you've had.


    I've been talking for weeks now about posting a video to YouTube evaluating all the different apps' players to hopefully shame some of these companies into fixing them. I really need to do that.
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    A limited series on Paramount coming the 28th. I'm intrigued.

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    I'm always a trekkie. when I liked it, it was so uncool. the cool kids always wanted to change it to Trekker. They can eat all of my ass.
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    Also, no "skip intro" button Paramount+, when its kind of an open secret that the skip intro button was made on netflix specifically for star trek:enterprise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal... View Post

    I've seen that's a common criticism with Paramount+.

    I also read that unloading and the reloading the app can fix buffering issues. Also, check for an update. If all else fails, delete it and then reinstall it.
    I haven't had any problems with pausing/resuming with the Paramount+ app on Apple TV, but buffering at the start of the show continues to be an issue. I got sick of it and wondered if using a wired connection instead of WiFi would help. The wife didn't want me to drill another hole in the floor or have to (God forbid) see another cable, lol. I had the ethernet cable sitting unused in the basement ceiling and slowly, quietly I moved it into the correct position ready for connection. Finally she left the house for a couple hours and I drilled the hole and got it all connected and made sure the cable was "hidden" (bundled with the others behind the TV stand). That was a couple of months ago and she hasn't noticed yet.

    Unfortunately it did nothing for the buffering issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasmatopia View Post
    I haven't had any problems with pausing/resuming with the Paramount+ app on Apple TV, but buffering at the start of the show continues to be an issue. I got sick of it and wondered if using a wired connection instead of WiFi would help. The wife didn't want me to drill another hole in the floor or have to (God forbid) see another cable, lol. I had the ethernet cable sitting unused in the basement ceiling and slowly, quietly I moved it into the correct position ready for connection. Finally she left the house for a couple hours and I drilled the hole and got it all connected and made sure the cable was "hidden" (bundled with the others behind the TV stand). That was a couple of months ago and she hasn't noticed yet.

    Unfortunately it did nothing for the buffering issue.
    This is hilarious on many levels.
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    This just in: Netflix losing value due to losing subscribers. I've always thought it was asinine to value a company based on its growth. If hypothetically all 330M people in the US already subscribe to Netflix, where is further growth going to come from? Are people going to buy a second subscription to keep the growth train running?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal... View Post
    I just subscribed to basic Paramount+ because of the NWSL and World Cup qualifying, etc. I don't really care about anything else they offer and the commercials don't bother me since they don't have any during each half of a soccer match.

    But Jesus what a shitty app. I was watching a game from last month for about 20 or 30 minutes and accidentally exited out. When I went back to watching it again, I discovered there's no resume option. WTF? I had to fast forward to where I left off. Not to mention that it required me to sit through 2 minutes of the same fucking commercials again! At least with some other free, ad based app (I forget which, but I think it's IMDb), once you get through an ad break it's gone for good so if you go back and watch a scene that was before that ad break, they don't make you watch it again.

    How is it that a free app is better than one you pay for? Oh yeah, that's right. It's fucking CBS. Hell, even Peacock, another shitty app imo, is better than Paramount+.

    I want to email customer support for all these streaming services and tell them to subscribe to Prime or Hulu to see how a properly designed app is supposed to work. Not that they're perfect, either, but they're better than anyone else.
    Agree on the app. I watch mostly on my TV, which doesn't make the app any better, but makes it a bit more palatable. The other show that is worth watching, IMHO, is Star Trek: Discovery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progmatist View Post
    This just in: Netflix losing value due to losing subscribers.
    I saw that somewhere earlier today. I think it's a bullshit excuse so that they can start charging for password sharing.

    I've always thought it was asinine to value a company based on its growth. If hypothetically all 330M people in the US already subscribe to Netflix, where is further growth going to come from? Are people going to buy a second subscription to keep the growth train running?
    Agree 100%.

    Quote Originally Posted by Just Eric View Post
    Agree on the app. I watch mostly on my TV, which doesn't make the app any better, but makes it a bit more palatable.
    Apparently you missed my later post where I said "now that I've had a chance to evaluate it better, Paramount's player isn't nearly as bad as I originally thought."

    The other show that is worth watching, IMHO, is Star Trek: Discovery.
    I watched more than the first season but can't remember if I finished the second. Someone posted a video in this thread a while back comparing the original ST movies/STTNG and the newer ones, including ST Discovery. I thought the video was brilliant and agreed with all or most of what they said. I watched the first new movie with Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto but had no desire to see any of the others. I found all the action overkill. The same for Discovery, somewhat. And it's why I have no desire to see Picard, not to mention he looks like he should have retired a decade ago. Still, some stupidity aside, I liked Discovery. Speaking of which, with all the initialisms people use for all the ST shows, you'd think someone would have had the foresight to realize that Star Trek Discovery was not a good idea.
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    I watched the first new movie with Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto but had no desire to see any of the others.
    The second one used a batch of JJ Abrams favorite idjits as writers and was so woefully full of horrific plot holes and lapses of logic it could almost be viewed as a comedy. Behold: https://gizmodo.com/star-trek-into-d...-faq-508927844
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    Quote Originally Posted by progmatist View Post
    This just in: Netflix losing value due to losing subscribers. I've always thought it was asinine to value a company based on its growth. If hypothetically all 330M people in the US already subscribe to Netflix, where is further growth going to come from? Are people going to buy a second subscription to keep the growth train running?
    To make it worthwhile for Jill (or Joe) Investor to put their money into the stock of Consolidated International, LLC, there has to be a reasonable expectation of repayment at least as good as she can get from other investment opportunities, like corporate bonds) bonds, savings accounts, municipal bonds, money-market accounts, savings bonds, and commodity futures. It can be worthwhile in one of two ways:
    1. Quarterly dividends, or
    2. Reasonable expectation that the stock will become worth more than the price at which Jill buys it.

    Netflix, like most younger companies, has never paid a dividend and is not likely to any time soon. Thus, the only thing that can entice Jill to buy it is a reasonable expectation that the stock etc. If its revenue stream -- or, rather, its net profit, which is not entirely a question of revenue -- ceases to increase, the stock will stagnate or, more likely, drop in value. Most stock prices are based not on the stock's current value (by which I mean here the amount a share of stock would be worth if the company liquidated and issued all the money as a one-time dividend), but on what they believe it will be if the current trends continue for X amount of time, where X is based on a number of factors, including the investor's taste for risk, something called the forward P/E ration, and much more (I don't pretend to understand this part of it).

    So, to keep the executives' stocks and options valuable, they need to keep net profit growing. There are three basic ways to do this:
    1. Increase the company's customer base.
    2. Increase the price of the company's products and/or services.
    3. Cut costs.

    Starting with #3, this is a risky strategy unless you can cut costs by economies of scale. Sometimes the market rewards, in the short term, things like layoffs; but this can have negative results on the company's ability to provide products and/or services to a (hopefully) growing customer base.

    #2 has its own risks, especially for something as commoditized as streaming entertainment. Netflix has to compete not only with Disney+, Paramount+, Peacock, and God wot what all else, but with free services like YouTube and, for that matter, XVideos or PornHub. If they raise their prices too much, there's a good chance that their customer base will not just stagnate but actually shrink, which is an obviously suicidal trend in the long term. (Setting prices to maximize so as the product of per-unit profit and sales volume is a particularly abstruse corner of the Dismal Science...)

    That leaves #1. The problem with #1 is that any market has its limits. Netflix doesn't compete with Disney+ etc. for individual customers so much as for market share. If the market is getting larger -- as the market for streaming entertainment has mostly done for the past n years, and especially during COVID restrictions -- well, "a rising tide floats all boats"; but when you hit the limit of the market, competition becomes much more cutthroated, as the companies sharing that market enter into a classic Darwinian battle to see which vendors are best adapted to the (current) market conditions.

    Oh, and the streaming companies don't just compete with each other. They compete with live entertainment and movies -- which is why COVID has been such a boon for the streamers -- and also with books, magazines, DVDs, CDs and streaming music, and, not least of all, food and drink, especially alcohol. The late Robert A. Heinlein used to say that he was competing for your beer money -- he, together with the publisher's publicity department, had to convince you that buying his latest book was a better choice than buying the equivalent amount of beer. (This is an easy sale for me, as I dislike beer intensely, but, then, I like other alcoholic bevvies, so the competition remains valid.) In short, everyone with a non-necessary product is competing for your discretionary income with all the others, and also with the options of saving it, investing it, or giving it away (whether to a friend/relative or to some worthy-in-your-eyes charity).

    At any rate, the point I was making here is that any market has a total size limit. There are only so many people in the world, and only so many of them are in places Netflix reaches, and only so many of those have sufficient discretionary income to even consider Netflix, and only so many of those actually care enough for what Netflix sells to plunk down ten or twenty clams a month for it. (I am one of those who does not, though I subscribe to a couple of other services.)

    But profit growth is the only thing that makes a company valuable (== viable).

    Or, to summarize: consumer capitalism is doomed, and the sooner we recognize it, the better chance we have to convert to some other form of economy, preferably one that won't continue to contribute to the destruction of the biosphere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post
    The second one used a batch of JJ Abrams favorite idjits as writers and was so woefully full of horrific plot holes and lapses of logic it could almost be viewed as a comedy. Behold: https://gizmodo.com/star-trek-into-d...-faq-508927844
    I actually laughed at loud at parts of this movie in the theater it was so ridiculous. Star Trek 5 looks like high concept art compared to that flick! Thankfully "Beyond" was better:P
    Alex Kurtzman co-wrote that (as well as the 2009 movie) and is now responsible for basically running the current Star Trek universe -- he's great for really getting what the inclusive nature of Star Trek is truly about, so for that he's pretty awesome -- but as an actual writer, he's kinda sus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal... View Post
    I saw that somewhere earlier today. I think it's a bullshit excuse so that they can start charging for password sharing.
    I heard about the possibility of charging more for password sharing a couple weeks ago and only now started seeing headlines about losing subscribers, so from my perspective I wondered if they just pissed some people off who then decided to move on to other streaming services in anticipation of the higher cost. I mean, at the time they started to float that whole idea of charging more I instantly assumed there would be tons leaving Netflix out of spite. There are any number of other places to be entertained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturgeon's Lawyer View Post
    To make it worthwhile for Jill (or Joe) Investor to put their money into the stock of Consolidated International, LLC, there has to be a reasonable expectation of repayment at least as good as she can get from other investment opportunities, like corporate bonds) bonds, savings accounts, municipal bonds, money-market accounts, savings bonds, and commodity futures. It can be worthwhile in one of two ways:
    1. Quarterly dividends, or
    2. Reasonable expectation that the stock will become worth more than the price at which Jill buys it.
    ...

    Or, to summarize: consumer capitalism is doomed, and the sooner we recognize it, the better chance we have to convert to some other form of economy, preferably one that won't continue to contribute to the destruction of the biosphere.
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    Netflix can cut costs. I know for a fact their people costs are high - they pay above range for all positions, it's a policy. They also have high Real Estate costs and perks. Cutting costs is a good lever to pull because some of the actions have immediate impact, i.e. severely curtailing travel, sub-leasing or exiting space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasmatopia View Post
    I heard about the possibility of charging more for password sharing a couple weeks ago and only now started seeing headlines about losing subscribers, so from my perspective I wondered if they just pissed some people off who then decided to move on to other streaming services in anticipation of the higher cost. I mean, at the time they started to float that whole idea of charging more I instantly assumed there would be tons leaving Netflix out of spite. There are any number of other places to be entertained.
    IMO, the entire streaming business is about content. People are willing to pay for outstanding content. Netflix excelled at that for a while, however their competition is catching up, and Netflix is starting to piss people off by refusing any of their popular series to go beyond 3-4 seasons of 8-12 episodes. I understand that you want to go out on a high and not let the series go stale, but I know many people who feel cheated by this practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerjo View Post
    The second one used a batch of JJ Abrams favorite idjits as writers and was so woefully full of horrific plot holes and lapses of logic it could almost be viewed as a comedy. Behold: https://gizmodo.com/star-trek-into-d...-faq-508927844


    Quote Originally Posted by Plasmatopia View Post
    I heard about the possibility of charging more for password sharing a couple weeks ago and only now started seeing headlines about losing subscribers, so from my perspective I wondered if they just pissed some people off who then decided to move on to other streaming services in anticipation of the higher cost. I mean, at the time they started to float that whole idea of charging more I instantly assumed there would be tons leaving Netflix out of spite. There are any number of other places to be entertained.
    Yeah, good point. Hulu, Prime, HBO, et al offer a lot of good content. Not to mention that Netflix was already the most expensive streaming service, so the rate hike could also explain the loss of subscribers.

    And now they're talking about adding a cheaper, ad-supported version to its current ad-free service. Plus, Netflix has lost a lot of content to competitors.

    Why Netflix is suddenly losing subscribers

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    IMO, the entire streaming business is about content. People are willing to pay for outstanding content. Netflix excelled at that for a while, however their competition is catching up, and Netflix is starting to piss people off by refusing any of their popular series to go beyond 3-4 seasons of 8-12 episodes. I understand that you want to go out on a high and not let the series go stale, but I know many people who feel cheated by this practice.
    Yep. I posted a few weeks back how they cancelled Santa Clarita Diet because of a "budget model", even though the show was very popular. Fuck 'em. I would not be sad if they ended up a second rate streaming service like Crackle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Bails View Post
    IMO, the entire streaming business is about content. People are willing to pay for outstanding content. Netflix excelled at that for a while, however their competition is catching up, and Netflix is starting to piss people off by refusing any of their popular series to go beyond 3-4 seasons of 8-12 episodes. I understand that you want to go out on a high and not let the series go stale, but I know many people who feel cheated by this practice.
    Yeah, that seems like a pretty stupid policy. Better to base cancellations on low popularity or the creative well running dry....which might might mean a weak season or two.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hal... View Post

    Not to mention that Netflix was already the most expensive streaming service, so the rate hike could also explain the loss of subscribers.
    Yeah, seems like that's gotta be a big factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturgeon's Lawyer View Post
    To make it worthwhile for Jill (or Joe) Investor to put their money into the stock of Consolidated International, LLC, there has to be a reasonable expectation of repayment at least as good as she can get from other investment opportunities, like corporate bonds) bonds, savings accounts, municipal bonds, money-market accounts, savings bonds, and commodity futures. It can be worthwhile in one of two ways:
    1. Quarterly dividends, or
    2. Reasonable expectation that the stock will become worth more than the price at which Jill buys it.

    Netflix, like most younger companies, has never paid a dividend and is not likely to any time soon. Thus, the only thing that can entice Jill to buy it is a reasonable expectation that the stock etc. If its revenue stream -- or, rather, its net profit, which is not entirely a question of revenue -- ceases to increase, the stock will stagnate or, more likely, drop in value. Most stock prices are based not on the stock's current value (by which I mean here the amount a share of stock would be worth if the company liquidated and issued all the money as a one-time dividend), but on what they believe it will be if the current trends continue for X amount of time, where X is based on a number of factors, including the investor's taste for risk, something called the forward P/E ration, and much more (I don't pretend to understand this part of it).

    So, to keep the executives' stocks and options valuable, they need to keep net profit growing. There are three basic ways to do this:
    1. Increase the company's customer base.
    2. Increase the price of the company's products and/or services.
    3. Cut costs.

    Starting with #3, this is a risky strategy unless you can cut costs by economies of scale. Sometimes the market rewards, in the short term, things like layoffs; but this can have negative results on the company's ability to provide products and/or services to a (hopefully) growing customer base.

    #2 has its own risks, especially for something as commoditized as streaming entertainment. Netflix has to compete not only with Disney+, Paramount+, Peacock, and God wot what all else, but with free services like YouTube and, for that matter, XVideos or PornHub. If they raise their prices too much, there's a good chance that their customer base will not just stagnate but actually shrink, which is an obviously suicidal trend in the long term. (Setting prices to maximize so as the product of per-unit profit and sales volume is a particularly abstruse corner of the Dismal Science...)

    That leaves #1. The problem with #1 is that any market has its limits. Netflix doesn't compete with Disney+ etc. for individual customers so much as for market share. If the market is getting larger -- as the market for streaming entertainment has mostly done for the past n years, and especially during COVID restrictions -- well, "a rising tide floats all boats"; but when you hit the limit of the market, competition becomes much more cutthroated, as the companies sharing that market enter into a classic Darwinian battle to see which vendors are best adapted to the (current) market conditions.

    Oh, and the streaming companies don't just compete with each other. They compete with live entertainment and movies -- which is why COVID has been such a boon for the streamers -- and also with books, magazines, DVDs, CDs and streaming music, and, not least of all, food and drink, especially alcohol. The late Robert A. Heinlein used to say that he was competing for your beer money -- he, together with the publisher's publicity department, had to convince you that buying his latest book was a better choice than buying the equivalent amount of beer. (This is an easy sale for me, as I dislike beer intensely, but, then, I like other alcoholic bevvies, so the competition remains valid.) In short, everyone with a non-necessary product is competing for your discretionary income with all the others, and also with the options of saving it, investing it, or giving it away (whether to a friend/relative or to some worthy-in-your-eyes charity).

    At any rate, the point I was making here is that any market has a total size limit. There are only so many people in the world, and only so many of them are in places Netflix reaches, and only so many of those have sufficient discretionary income to even consider Netflix, and only so many of those actually care enough for what Netflix sells to plunk down ten or twenty clams a month for it. (I am one of those who does not, though I subscribe to a couple of other services.)

    But profit growth is the only thing that makes a company valuable (== viable).

    Or, to summarize: consumer capitalism is doomed, and the sooner we recognize it, the better chance we have to convert to some other form of economy, preferably one that won't continue to contribute to the destruction of the biosphere.
    I would add to that investor psychology is equally asinine. When oil prices dropped like a rock in the early '80s, that caused the stock market to crash. The break in high oil prices actually played a major role in reversing the stagflation of 70s. Investor reaction should've been the opposite of what it was.
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    Yep. I posted a few weeks back how they cancelled Santa Clarita Diet because of a "budget model", even though the show was very popular. Fuck 'em. I would not be sad if they ended up a second rate streaming service like Crackle.
    I miss that one too. I still like a lot of Netflix content, but there is doubt that there is a lot more competition these days. When we first signed up for Netflix (getting DVD's in the mail) the only real competition that they had was HBO & Showtime at that point. Now there are dozen's of different streaming platforms doing original content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by progmatist View Post
    I would add to that investor psychology is equally asinine. When oil prices dropped like a rock in the early '80s, that caused the stock market to crash. The break in high oil prices actually played a major role in reversing the stagflation of 70s. Investor reaction should've been the opposite of what it was.
    That's a great point. Wall Street works on quarterly increments, "what have you done for me in the last three months and what will you do for me in the next three" It's no longer about sound, sustainable business practice but rather EPS and revenue now.

    For those of us that work, or have worked, in large public companies that quarterly mentality is a chore and often onerous to the point of the inability to work on programs designed to sustain growth over time.
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    Back to the Star Trek films, I am not a connoisseur of the series and probably let much more slip through (suspended belief) than most. I will say that the film music for the entire universe has been top notch from the beginning, including both TV and Movies. Here is the roster of Star Trek composers -

    Jerry Fielding - Original Series episodes. Known for The Wild Bunch, Straw Dogs, The Mechanic and many other well known 1970's movies.

    Jerry Goldsmith - Five of the movies, TNG and Voyager themes. Known for being one of the most kick-ass composers ever.

    Michael Giacchino - The JJ Abrams movies. A modern day Goldsmith known for an Oscar for Up, most of the Pixar films (the ones Randy Newman didn't score), being JJ Abrams "go to" composer, Rogue One, many Marvel movies, the latter Planet of the Apes movies, and TV work including Lost, Alias, Fringe

    James Horner - Wrath of Khan and Search for Spock. Known for being James Cameron's composing partner and too much to list.

    Leonard Rosenman - The Voyage Home. Known for the Oscar for The Voyage Home, every other Planet of the Apes movies' original run (Jerry Goldsmith composed the "others" in the every other), a bunch of super cool films, like Fantastic Voyage, Rebel Without A Cause, Barry Lyndon, The Jazz Singer, Robocop 2

    and finally, Jeff Russo - Discovery and Picard. Noted TV composer with credits spanning Fargo, Lucifer, Discovery, Altered Carbon, Santa Clarita Diet, Picard, Brand New Cherry Flavor
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    NFLX - no longer a growth story. After the last few days it is now a value play. The price earnings multiple on it is now only 18x. Trading action is showing some capitulation. Is this a bottom yet? Who knows, but it is a compelling trade. Maybe buy a little here and a little more if it falls another 20 points, but I really don't think you will be disappointed in a year either way.

    The panic selling is because they lost 200,000 subscribers. Yes, the first time they lost people, but you have to also remember they gave up 700,000 subscribers in Russia. So ... really ... they gained 500,000 subscribers somewhere else.
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    Netflix is now $18 a month in Canada. I tend use Crave (pay network) and Prime way more than Netflix. I'm definitely considering to cancel it.
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