Originally Posted by Mister Triscuits
"Mold", as in Cynthia Plaster Caster?
"Mold", as in Cynthia Plaster Caster?
Apsotrophe was his highest charting album in the U.S., but shortly before he died FZ said Sheik Yerbouti was his biggest selling album worldwide.
Sounds ace.
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It does. That's back when Frank was doing all his own guitar work, not just solos. And while he may not have enjoyed playing written stuff, he could do it like nobody's business and was a killer rhythm guitarist.
This is the band with Jeff Simmons on rhythm guitar.
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A compilation of FZ's shows in Helsinki 1973 was released as part of the Road Tapes series. This jam occurred around that time.
Last edited by unclemeat; 08-26-2024 at 10:56 AM.
Some interesting information from recent Dweezil shows in this Reddit thread: https://old.reddit.com/r/Zappa/comme...me_show_82424/
Some people might want to know before going to a show.
(I couldn't find a recent Dweezil or ZPZ thread, so I figured I'd just mention it here.)
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Thank you for posting. That was a interesting and very sad read.
'Ughh' on so many levels.
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please add 'imo' wherever you like, to avoid offending those easily offended.
Yes, and I paid $288 × 2 tickets for VIP tickets for this Thursday. Some of that is flat-out disturbing and disappointing. I would expect to read that behavior from Ahmet, not The Dweez...
And wow...Scott posted in the thread too!
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Ooooof. That really sucks. Just shut yer face about that stuff and play MUSIC. Unfortunate to say the least.
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Scott Thunes posts a lot on Reddit. Mainly answering questions on music theory groups, but some Zappa stuff.
I just saw the show in Medford, MA last night. Reading that Reddit post I just wanted to respond to a few points. I probably don't have any more info than anyone else but I feel like maybe that post might be stirring the pot unnecessarily on a couple points.
1.) Not everyone would intend "dick" as such a bad thing. My coworker referred to our boss that way at a meeting recently (he was making a point in a humorous way and it was understood as being an exaggeration). It can be intended very mildly. But in any case, does anyone think that the people who were disgruntled in the '88 band did NOT think Scott Thunes was a dick (and not in a milder sense)? Hard to know if that's what was in DZ's mind or not. (Note: I don't even know if he was being a dick back then, but I refer to how some bandmates may have felt....whether justified or not.)
2.) I never heard Kamala's name mentioned at the show I attended, but it was hard to hear some details of what was spoken at times. Also, at our show we were asked at a certain point to send out a "f*%$ y*@" to whatever politician we were personally disgusted with. It was done in a non-partisan way.
3.) There were two women in our group and they were both joking about how there was no line for the ladies room. This is nothing new. My friend's daughter-in-law had seen Avril Lavigne the night before and while she could appreciate the talent on stage at the Dweezil show, it was not her thing. In contrast, my wife surprised me by saying that she really enjoyed the show, seemingly even more than I did. Of course, none of that excuses DZ's dumb comments at the Portland show although I'd be shocked if he wouldn't be willing to admit that there are plenty of men who also prefer simpler music. Hopefully someone set him straight. (A former coworker and her husband were at that same show in Portland. She never mentioned any of this stuff and said they both were blown away. This was not their first Zappa show either.)
4.) The dwarf thing was just bizarre, not funny, and pretty cringeworthy. But I had to wonder....did they pay extra to haul this person around on the tour with them to spent 2 minutes on the stage to provide zero entertainment value? Very strange. And if there was a larger point I missed it.
The Medford show was definitely one of the more interesting DZ shows I've seen. Overall my impressions were dampened by the poor sound of the venue. It was very boomy and heavy on the drums and bass. I felt bad for our newbie (my friend's D-I-L) since much of the melodic detail was getting lost in the sonic soup. I was even struggling to appreciate it, even with being familiar with the material. I felt the first 20-25 minutes kind of dragged because they were playing previously unheard versions and I think the original tempos they were trying to emulate were slower. For the first 4 or 5 solos I felt like Dweezil gave a workman-like performance, but it just felt like he was running up and down pentatonic scales. While it was technically impressive, as always, it felt uninspired. DZ might have been tired (or he was on Reddit earlier) but he didn't seem as upbeat as he seemed to be at the other shows I've seen over the years. Nonetheless, he did seem to come into it more in the second half of the show.
I was impressed at the attempt to do something different. There was one song where they danced the song, then they vocalized the song, then they played the song. On another song or two they mashed together versions from different eras. They threw in some unexpected a cappella sections in a couple places. They did the Dweezil-conducts-the-band thing. They put in some clever musical quotes. They covered a tune using a duck call as the lead instrument (that went on a bit too long for me). Two and a half hours flew by (after that first 20 minutes which could have just been my mood).
As we were leaving the venue I heard someone commenting about how tight they were. At times I thought they were, but there were other times when I wished they had another 10-15 shows under their belt before I saw them.
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Approximate? (Cf. YCDTOSA 2 version)
Yes, sorry. I couldn't remember the name. I listened to so much Zappa for years I kind of got burned out on it. In the last ten years or more I haven't spent much time with that stuff.
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I saw the Dweezil show in Cincinnati (really Newport KY) and he was very politically neutral, especially when introducing Dickie's Such an Asshole (or maybe it was after he played the song, can't remember). I didn't have an issue with the Larry the Dwarf bit.
Warning: moderate spoilers: The show was interesting because he pulled out an early version of Yellow Snow (I believe the version of the song as it was performed in Australia prior to Zappa recording Apostrophe, complete with some references to kangaroos) and the early version of Inca Roads from the Roxy by Proxy release.
To be clear, most people aren't offended by the dwarf - the complaints were about the "DWARF LIVES MATTER" shirt. It's not funny. It's just divisive and poor taste. Same as Dweezil wearing the Gadsden flag shirt - it's not ironic, not funny... just a dog whistle for far-right politics these days.
Note that it wasn't really a little person, it was a guy, I'd guess a roadie, walking on his knees. So kind of the ableist equivalent of blackface in addition to the t-shirt message.
Hurtleturtled Out of Heaven - an electronic music composition, on CD and vinyl
https://michaelpdawson.bandcamp.com
http://www.waysidemusic.com/Music-Pr...MCD-spc-7.aspx
Mind virus, episode 433. When Zappa fans - of all people - claim to be ''offended'' by a word or a cheap joke, one senses that something fishy's going on. Who needs yellow snowflakes ?
This thread is about new Zappa releases. Please take the gossip elsewhere.
Last edited by unclemeat; 08-27-2024 at 05:46 AM.
Yeah, you're right - they didn't need to haul around an extra person.
My former coworker and her husband (after further questioning) said they didn't perceive the political bit in Dickie's Such An Asshole as partisan but more of a rebellion against the establishment. <shrug>
Her husband is a drummer and was more offended that Dweezil accidentally introduced Ryan Brown as Joe Travers!
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Not offended. It's just not a fun time for most people to hear Dweezil's personal politics at a Frank Zappa tribute show. (Edgelord dog-whistles are not jokes, regardless of what online boomers might think.)
But I agree that it has derailed the topic of this thread. If anyone has further thoughts, here is a post for that: https://www.progressiveears.org/foru...69#post1255269
Thank you.
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