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    Walter Everett's two-volume work, The Beatles As Musicians: The Quarry Men through Rubber Soul and The Beatles As Musicians: Revolver through the Anthology, for musical analysis.
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    The Mark Lewisohn "Tune In" series will be the be-all end off of any Beatles story ever published. Volume one is incredible and truly riveting. Not only the detail, but the storytelling. It is out of this world. I have the short version of volume 1 and it's over 800 pages, ending only at the beginning of 1962. I'm dying for the next volumes, but it will be years.

    Anything that Lewisohn did is great. Much of it is historical reference. But, he got tired of waiting for the true story to come out. So, he did it himself.
    I have the expanded version and I still need to get to the second book. It is interesting, but to me it's a hell of a read. I often need a dictionary.

    It is not the only book I have. I also have the complete sheet-music, The complete recording sessions (also by Mark Lewisohn) and The Beatles Complete, the stories behind the 213 songs.
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    Do The Beatles have anything you'd call "psychedelic" aside from what's on Sgt Pepper, Magical Mystery Tour, and Yellow Submarine? Maybe Come Together, sort of?
    What is Psychedelic? When you take Donovan'a style of psychedelic music into consideration then Beatles is as psychedelic band as they come. On other hand considering Pink Floyd psychedelic music make Beatles's music sound like pop. IMHO anything including and past Rubber Soul has psychedelic vibes all over it.


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    Yes, some have said that 'The Word' has nascent traces of psychedelia, particularly lyrically. And of course 'Norwegian Wood' had the sitar for the first time on their records (I believe The Yardbirds recorded with a sitar before this, but that wasn't released until decades later). Rubber Soul is a watershed album for rock music generally, I think, in terms of expanding the palette. (I guess he heard the bastardised US version...but Brian Wilson cites it as being the main inspiration for Pet Sounds.)

    A book I've always enjoyed is Ian MacDonald's Revolution In The Head, which covers every single track they recorded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    The Mark Lewisohn "Tune In" series will be the be-all end off of any Beatles story ever published. Volume one is incredible and truly riveting. Not only the detail, but the storytelling. It is out of this world. I have the short version of volume 1 and it's over 800 pages, ending only at the beginning of 1962. I'm dying for the next volumes, but it will be years.

    Anything that Lewisohn did is great. Much of it is historical reference. But, he got tired of waiting for the true story to come out. So, he did it himself.

    But, to me, the Anthology is the best single volume. It's the official story presented by the band themselves. Can't go wrong.
    The Lewisohn book is history done right. I have the audio book version of the full unabridged text, and it is something like 43 hours long. As soon as it reached the end, I immediately started listening to it again. I just did not want it to end. It was riveting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rarebird View Post
    I have the expanded version and I still need to get to the second book.
    Good luck with that. The second book isn't complete yet. The first book took ten years to research and write, but he doesn't expect subsequent volumes to take as long.
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    Ten years! Who does he think he is, George RR Martin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chescorph View Post
    Doesn't the Hofner have sort of a cheap reputation?
    The real German made Hofner "Beatle" bass currently sells for around $2900, hardly cheap and a few hundred bucks more than what a Ric currently goes for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    Good luck with that. The second book isn't complete yet. The first book took ten years to research and write, but he doesn't expect subsequent volumes to take as long.
    His audience is dying out and may not live to see all volumes completed.

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    As the single biggest selling act of all time, I don't think anyone need worry too much about that.

    Lewisohn's Chronicle/Sessions books are also essential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gruno View Post
    His audience is dying out and may not live to see all volumes completed.
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    As the single biggest selling act of all time, I don't think anyone need worry too much about that.
    Exactly. That audience will never die out.

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    Lewisohn's Chronicle/Sessions books are also essential.
    Agreed, but not necessarily for the casual fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post
    As the single biggest selling act of all time, I don't think anyone need worry too much about that.
    SiriusXM is starting an all-Beatles channel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    Good luck with that. The second book isn't complete yet. The first book took ten years to research and write, but he doesn't expect subsequent volumes to take as long.
    With the second book, I ment the second book in the first set. The expanded version contains 2 seperate books, one going to 1960, the second book containing the years 1961 and 1962.

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    Quote Originally Posted by progholio View Post
    The real German made Hofner "Beatle" bass currently sells for around $2900, hardly cheap and a few hundred bucks more than what a Ric currently goes for.
    But I think its the only old Höfner that got so expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rarebird View Post
    With the second book, I ment the second book in the first set. The expanded version contains 2 seperate books, one going to 1960, the second book containing the years 1961 and 1962.
    Oh, I get it. Yeah, that makes more sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmac View Post
    Exactly. That audience will never die out.



    Agreed, but not necessarily for the casual fan.
    If you want to know what they did and when, I'd say the Chronicle is a very accessible way of finding that out, even for casual fans.

    Avoid Lennon books by the likes of Albert Goldman and Geoffrey Giuliano.

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    Any opinions of the biography of Paul by Howard Sounes - Fab?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post
    If you want to know what they did and when, I'd say the Chronicle is a very accessible way of finding that out, even for casual fans.

    Avoid Lennon books by the likes of Albert Goldman and Geoffrey Giuliano.
    Agreed. But, I do think Chronicle is more of a reference than narrative. If someone wants one volume that covers it all, the Anthology book cannot be beat.
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    ^And the DVD of Anthology is truly essential. If someone only ever bought one music DVD, I would recommend that to be the one.

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    ^And the DVD of Anthology is truly essential. If someone only ever bought one music DVD, I would recommend that to be the one.
    +1 million. Every minute is riveting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mogrooves View Post
    SiriusXM is starting an all-Beatles channel.
    There was all Beatles radio station in DFW area a decade or so ago. The guy paid it from his own pocket and it obviously did not last long. Nevertheless it made for a very interesting shows, consisting of all sorts of Beatles songs, covers, Beatle's solo music and different outtakes, rarities and interviews. I hope SiriusXM version would live up to that standard.

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    I just ordered the DVD. I have been unable to find something good and deep on these guys and its always been on my bucket list. 20+ Years ago I saw a part of a documentary on the Beatles, that was not terribly flattering and I always wanted to see the full thing. It showed Brian Epstein and all the Beatles, warts and all during the early Germany touring days. It was gripping. I have tried to find it again. It used actors, and not the real Beatles, so its probably not perfect but it was great and I'd like to see it in its entirety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yodelgoat View Post
    I just ordered the DVD. I have been unable to find something good and deep on these guys and its always been on my bucket list. 20+ Years ago I saw a part of a documentary on the Beatles, that was not terribly flattering and I always wanted to see the full thing. It showed Brian Epstein and all the Beatles, warts and all during the early Germany touring days. It was gripping. I have tried to find it again. It used actors, and not the real Beatles, so its probably not perfect but it was great and I'd like to see it in its entirety.
    Was it this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_of_the_Beatles

    other likely suspects here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Be...alised_Beatles

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    It's probably Birth of the Beatles. Factually incorrect in a number of places, especially regarding Stuart Sutcliffe's death, but still interesting.

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    It's probably Birth of the Beatles. Factually incorrect in a number of places, especially regarding Stuart Sutcliffe's death, but still interesting.
    I remember Dick Clark promoting the hell out of that during the run up to showing it.. all the morning talk shows had him on. Obviously been a long time since I saw it but remember thinking it was quite good.. I didn't have the full story on the Beatles at that point and was fascinated with the Stu part of the story.. I only knew the Beatles as John Paul George and Ringo.. as I recall that's the movie where the guys got a bit frustrated and Brian sits them down and goes through the whole.. "you're the heart, your the soul, etc." pulling out the individual personalities that made the Beatles who they were.. then going on to tell them that if any one of them decided to pull away from the band The Beatles would lose the magic etc... Of course someone most likely has mentioned Backbeat which I've always felt captured that period better than any other doc. I've ever seen about the boys..

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