Most of the Baby Snakes songs were taken from the 10/30 show IIRC.Originally Posted by chalkpie
Most of the Baby Snakes songs were taken from the 10/30 show IIRC.
FZ used a few things that were only performed on the 30th (the Poodle Lecture, the I Have Been In You speech and King Kong). Other parts like the audience participation before Black Page are from the 31st and he also used one of the shows from the 29th.
Where would this USB/Halloween costume set fit in on the album charts if it was going to chart?
Yeah, they did a great job on the mix and mastering for these shows I thinkXmas '76 would make another cool set that hopefully they're putting together.
Listened to a lot of it. Great band, but the shows are very repetitive. This is not my favorite Zappa period, so I would have been happy with "Zappa in New York".
Been hittin' some FZ vault releases from the last 10-15 years. Lots of goodies. What are some of your fav releases since around 2000-ish?
Here is the list.......
FZ: OZ (2CD, Vaulternative VR 2002-1, August 16, 2002) #70
Halloween (DVD-A, Vaulternative/DTS 1101, February 4, 2003) #71
Joe's Corsage (CD, Vaulternative VR 20041, May 30, 2004) #72
Quaudiophiliac (DVD-A, Barking Pumpkin/DTS 1125, September 14, 2004) #74
Joe's Domage (CD, Vaulternative VR 20042, October 1, 2004) #73
Joe's Xmasage (CD, Vaulternative VR 20051, December 21, 2005) #75
Imaginary Diseases (CD, Zappa Records ZR 20001, January 13, 2006) #76
Trance-Fusion (CD, Zappa Records ZR 20002, November 7, 2006) #79
The MOFO Project/Object (fazedooh) (2CD, Zappa Records ZR 20005, December 5, 2006) #78
The MOFO Project/Object (4CD, Zappa Records ZR 20004, December 12, 2006) #77
Buffalo (2CD, Vaulternative VR 2007-1, April 5, 2007) #80
The Dub Room Special! (CD, Zappa Records ZR 20006, August 24, 2007) #81
Wazoo (2CD, Vaulternative VR 2007-2, October 31, 2007) #82
One Shot Deal (CD, Zappa Records ZR 20007, June 13, 2008) #83
Joe's Menage (CD, Vaulternative Records VR 20081, October 1, 2008) #84
The Lumpy Money Project/Object (3CD, Zappa Records ZR20008, January 21, 2009) #85
Philly '76 (2CD, Vaulternative Records VR 20091, December 15, 2009) #86
Greasy Love Songs (CD, Zappa Records ZR20010, April 19, 2010) #87
"Congress Shall Make No Law . . . " (CD, Zappa Records ZR 20011, September 24, 2010) #88
Hammersmith Odeon (3CD, Vaulternative Records VR 20101, November 18, 2010) #89
Feeding The Monkies At Ma Maison (CD, Zappa Records ZR20012, September 22, 2011) #90
Carnegie Hall (4CD, Vaulternative Records VR 2011-1, November 17, 2011) #91
Understanding America (2CD, Zappa Records/UME ZR3892, October 30, 2012) #93
Road Tapes, Venue #1 (2CD, Vaulternative Records VR 20122, November 7, 2012) #92
Finer Moments (2CD, Zappa Records/UME ZR3894, December 18, 2012) #94
AAAFNRAA—Baby Snakes—The Compleat Soundtrack (digital download, Zappa Records, December 21, 2012) [#95]
Road Tapes, Venue #2 (2CD, Vaulternative Records VR 2013-1, October 31, 2013) #96
A Token Of His Extreme Soundtrack (CD, Zappa Records ZR20015, November 25, 2013) #97
Joe's Camouflage (CD, Vaulternative Records VR 2013-02, January 30, 2014) #98
Roxy By Proxy (CD, Zappa Records ZR 20017, March 13, 2014) #99
Dance Me This (CD, Zappa Records ZR 20018, June 19, 2015) #100
Roxy—The Soundtrack (CD, Zappa Records EAGDV050/CD, October 30, 2015) #102.2
Road Tapes, Venue #3 (2CD, Vaulternative Records/Zappa Records/UME VR 2016-1, May 27, 2016) #102
The Crux Of The Biscuit (CD, Zappa Records/UME ZR 20020, July 15, 2016) #102
Frank Zappa For President (CD, Zappa Records/UME ZR 20021, July 15, 2016) #103
Meat Light—The Uncle Meat Project/Object Audio Documentary (3CD, Zappa Records/UME ZR20024, November 4, 2016) #107
Chicago '78 (2CD, Vaulternative Records/Zappa Records/UME ZR20025, November 4, 2016) #108
Little Dots (CD, Zappa Records/UME ZR20026, November 4, 2016) #109
Halloween 77 (3CD/USB Costume Box Set, Zappa Records/UME ZR 20027K, October 20, 2017) #110K/110
The Roxy Performances (7CD, Zappa Records/UME ZR20028, February 2, 2018) #111
Zappa In New York 40th Anniversary Deluxe Edition (5 CDs, Zappa Records/UME ZR20029, March 29, 2019) #112
Orchestral Favorites 40th Anniversary (3 CDs, Zappa Records/UME ZR20030, August 30, 2019) #113
Halloween 73 (Frank Zappa, 4 CDs/1 CD, Zappa Records/UME ZR20031/ZR20031Z, October 25, 2019) #114
The Hot Rats Sessions (Frank Zappa, 6 CDs, Zappa Records/UME ZR20032, December 20, 2019) #115
If it isn't Krautrock, it's krap.
"And it's only the giving
That makes you what you are" - Ian Anderson
Buffalo.
Whatever I say here won’t quite persuade anyone, and I’m fine with that, but I adore Zappa’s vocal arrangements. I’ve never cared what was actually sung; the lyrics hardly matter to me. Zappa had a knack for putting voices together in concert with the music, and I love that aspect more than his guitar solos or any individual band’s musical acumen. And this set showcases some of Zappa’s best vocal arrangements.
And, yes, it doesn’t hurt that the band is tight.
But I’m guessing the mood was right, too. This show just keeps going and going.
I’ll never get enough of this set.
I know that’s far from a compelling argument, but only something like Meat Light and the complete Roxy box rank higher for me.
I want to dynamite your mind with love tonight.
^ Lick me, its my 10th Zappa Concert
Buffalo slays! That must have been the You Are What You Is Tour, yeah? Vinnie. I also love that album a ton and 3/4.
Damn...more stuff has come out then I realized.
I'll do a top five (no order):
Complete Roxy
Lumpy Money
Hammersmith Odeon
Little Dots
Imaginary Diseases
Honorable mention: Dance Me This
Also, the numbering system is a little weird. There are three 102s (admitted one has two extra tenths), and nothing between 103 and 107.
Please don't ask questions, just use google.
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That sequence corrected:
Roxy—The Soundtrack (CD, Zappa Records EAGDV050/CD, October 30, 2015) #102
Road Tapes, Venue #3 (2CD, Vaulternative Records/Zappa Records/UME VR 2016-1, May 27, 2016) #103
The Crux Of The Biscuit (CD, Zappa Records/UME ZR 20020, July 15, 2016) #104
Frank Zappa For President (CD, Zappa Records/UME ZR 20021, July 15, 2016) #105
Zappatite--Frank Zappa's Tastiest Tracks (CD, September 23, 2016) #106 (compilation, no new material)
Meat Light—The Uncle Meat Project/Object Audio Documentary (3CD, Zappa Records/UME ZR20024, November 4, 2016) #107
Edit: I should note that my "corrections" are based on the current zappa.com discography, not what is printed on the discs themselves. The official numbering system has changed over the years and is inevitably inconsistent...and they really did mistakenly print #102 on two different releases other than the one that is now listed as 102.
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Excellent, thanks.
Please don't ask questions, just use google.
Never let good music get in the way of making a profit.
I'm only here to reglaze my bathtub.
Best: Buffalo for sure. Also Imaginary Diseases, Wazoo, Little Dots (mostly for Rollo), and Road Tapes #2.
QuAudiophiliac. If someone told me I could only keep one single disc of FZ, that's likely to be my pick.
.... these are the four titles I do not have from that list. It's crazy, I've got over 100 Zappas in my collection, but there's always going to be a 'want list' of sorts.
As for my favourites from the rest? I love Wazoo, Imaginary Diseases, Meat Light, and of course the more recent Roxy Performances, Zappa In New York 40th, and Hot Rats Sessions. Absolute glory.
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Never heard it!
Do you mean you actually were in there?^ Lick me, its my 10th Zappa Concert
I love the Road Tapes series, and in particular #2, which has to be one of the best live recordings of Zappa. Imaginary diseases is also essential. Of the extended boxes series, I believe there is more meat in the Orchestral Favorites one - and parts of the gigantic Hot Rats set.
Well, it is true Frank was very much into having top notch vocal arrangements. I guess that's another carry over from his days listening to and playing in doo wop groups when he was young. I think it was Bobby Martin who said he liked the 84 band best because he liked singing vocal harmonies with Frank, Ray and Ike.
As for the posthumous releases, Trance Fusion is still the only I have. I really want to get some of the large sets, like Meat Light and the Roxy set, but as always there's more stuff out there than I have money for.
BTW, I noticed one of the online vendors has Ahead Of Their Time marked down to like five bucks. Anyone familiar with that one? Isn't the show the version of Oh No/Orange County Lumber Truck on Weasels Ripped My Flesh was supposed to have been edited out of?
^ I can't answer that specific question, but Ahead Of Their Time is near essential for me, just for the second half. (The first is more of stage play set to some music, but definitely looses something by not having the visuals). That said, the second half makes up for any of the issues with the first half and for five bucks seems like a no brainer to me.
Please don't ask questions, just use google.
Never let good music get in the way of making a profit.
I'm only here to reglaze my bathtub.
Someone with "chalkpie" as his handle never heard QuAudiophiliac!?
Correct. October 25, 1968.
Isn't it DVD A? I dont think I can play that.
No, I wish. In the beginning some guy has a shirt that says "This is my 10th Zappa show so lick me"....and of course FZ picks up on it! Funny.
Agreed - the 1973 Helsinki Road Tapes No. 2 is indeed otherworldly. i love when Duke used his clavinet! This band is like Henry Cow tight...or is it the other way around?
If it isn't Krautrock, it's krap.
"And it's only the giving
That makes you what you are" - Ian Anderson
Buffalo is October 25, 1980! And 25 Oct is my son's birthday
If it isn't Krautrock, it's krap.
"And it's only the giving
That makes you what you are" - Ian Anderson
Ahead of Their Time is essential imo. Its a beautiful recording of The Mothers at their height. Way back when I started a Zappa cover band called Lumpy Gravy, I 'knicked' and transcribed a bunch of stuff from this album and we played it live as is on the recording. If you love that era of the Mothers, its a no-brainer.
If it isn't Krautrock, it's krap.
"And it's only the giving
That makes you what you are" - Ian Anderson
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