Synthesizer Gear Porn ;-)

[Rarebird]

Yeah...it's nothing I would reach for regularly in the studio.

But it is a fairly clever idea and for someone who is a huge FM synthesis fan (not me ), it might be tempting...

I'm not sure I would reach for it, the sound at the end, where the guy is really playing sounded good, but I wonder what one can really do fidling with the possibilities. The largest part of the video was just some sequences, where the guy fidled a bit on the screen, but no explanation about what does what.

[battema]

Yeah...that's Perfect Circuit Audio's page and video...they're a vendor so they tend to favor quick showoff videos rather than deep feature dives (Sweetwater is much better at the latter, to be honest).

I listen to the sounds and they do sound great...my own question is always, "would I want to program this sound myself from scratch in FM, or would I be perfectly happy simply using and/or slightly tweaking the FM sounds coming from things like the Arturia DX7-V, or what the Hydrasynth or EaganMatrix can do?"

To me, spending $1400 on an FM synth where I rarely ever went below the surface to do any hardcore programming...it probably would be a waste of funds. For me.

I seem to recall that Brian Eno was one of the few people who actually realized some of the sound sculpting potential of the DX7 so a module like this might light his imagination on fire.

[Rarebird]

Yeah...that's Perfect Circuit Audio's page and video...they're a vendor so they tend to favor quick showoff videos rather than deep feature dives (Sweetwater is much better at the latter, to be honest).

I listen to the sounds and they do sound great...my own question is always, "would I want to program this sound myself from scratch in FM, or would I be perfectly happy simply using and/or slightly tweaking the FM sounds coming from things like the Arturia DX7-V, or what the Hydrasynth or EaganMatrix can do?"

To me, spending $1400 on an FM synth where I rarely ever went below the surface to do any hardcore programming...it probably would be a waste of funds. For me.

I seem to recall that Brian Eno was one of the few people who actually realized some of the sound sculpting potential of the DX7 so a module like this might light his imagination on fire.

It's the same for me. I have a Yamaha TX81Z and I made some sounds, basicly by tweaking existing sounds. It's my oldest multi-timbral module and it is still working and I sometimes use it. On my old version of Cubase 3.1 there was a module which could be used to store and load sounds and I think it also offered the possiblity to do some tweaking. It is something I miss on my current version of Cubase. I discovered the Yamaha TX81Z is the only synthesizer I own which can be worked with on my current version of Cubase. I need to look into it, someday.

[hFx]

There is still some need for some sort of intuitive interface to make FM more user tweakable - some metaphor where the outcome feel more predictable. Following some sort of analog path with virtual waveforms and filters would be counter productive with regard to what FM is capable of. Maybe the west coast modular approach is better - but again, that approach is not very intuitive to start with... Maybe some specific tweakable macros, like a piano mode, bass mode, melodic percussion mode, etc modes that focuses on the already established FM strengths...

[Progbear]

That's kind of the idea behind the Kawai K3. It has a programmable digital waveform, which means you can additively create a new waveform by selecting the levels of each individual harmonic, and then you can use it as a source for the subtractive synthesis (with real analog filters, not digital!). Sure, it's a bit crude compared to what we are normally discussing here, but quite an interesting synth for its time...

The Roland SH3A was kind of an early, crude, analog attempt at additive synthesis. Technically, Hammond organs (and other drawbar organs) use a limited form of additive synthesis, as does Davoli’s synthesizer (which is really more of a monophonic organ with some synth controls than a proper synth).

[hFx]

Anyone tried the K5000 with 64 partials, each with its own envelope generator...

[TheNefariousHED]

Anyone tried the K5000 with 64 partials, each with its own envelope generator...

You can see my K5000W in the live Church of Hed show video... I only use it during this set as an organ paired with another organ patch on the Waldorf MicroQ. It’s a great pairing, unfortunately you can’t hear it in the mix. I wasn’t planning on using it, but decided to on the fly in the middle of Brandenburg Heights 1, thus the level wasn’t set properly. Oops!

In general it’s very difficult to program due the number of parameters around the partials, and the menu diving it takes to get at them. Every few years I get a hankering to dive in and conjure up a new patch. It’s great for those late 70s pulsing Larry Fast sonics. I have no problem with quite a few of the presets. Theres’s a fun Belew-esque patch I use on the trieponymous Church of Hed by Church of Hed from Church of Hed.

[Rarebird]

^
Nice stuff. That New Interlude reminded me a bit of Wendy Carlos.

[TheNefariousHED]

^
Nice stuff. That New Interlude reminded me a bit of Wendy Carlos.

Thanks for checking it out and the Wendy reference! The Streichfett reigns on that track (paired with the Korg Z1). The MoogCoast (Sub 37/Make Noise 0-Coast) tandem is doing the arpeggio.

[hFx]

A really nice concert! Thanks

In general it’s very difficult to program due the number of parameters around the partials, and the menu diving it takes to get at them. Every few years I get a hankering to dive in and conjure up a new patch. It’s great for those late 70s pulsing Larry Fast sonics. I have no problem with quite a few of the presets. Theres’s a fun Belew-esque patch I use on the trieponymous Church of Hed by Church of Hed from Church of Hed.

So much I have understood, that it require a major efforts! Additive is easier to grasp but even more complicated to get the desired result. Theoretically you should be able to do "anything" with such control over so many partials, but in practice - well...

[Rarebird]

[Rarebird]

[dropforge]

That was awesome!

[markwoll]

Maybe yes, maybe no
https://i.imgur.com/4cpgqcZ.mp4

[Rarebird]

Maybe yes, maybe no
https://i.imgur.com/4cpgqcZ.mp4

If he records an album it can be called Sticky fingers.

I wonder how it works.

[markwoll]

Some sore of synth kink going on

[hFx]

Some sore of synth kink going on

[Rarebird]

A synthesizer with valves

https://knifaudio.com/knifonium/

A bit pricy, but there seems to be a software version as well.

[battema]

Yeah, the Knifonium looks crazy sweet. Debated the VST version since it's MASSIVELY less expensive. Decided to pass though.

[Rarebird]

Yeah, the Knifonium looks crazy sweet. Debated the VST version since it's MASSIVELY less expensive. Decided to pass though.

According to the maker of the Knifonium, the VST version sounds the same and is polyphonic.

[hFx]

Really nice improvised live session from synth artist Burg! More goodies in the YT-channel!

[hFx]

New Arturia Polybrute - promising 6 voice poly which is not just "more of the same"!

[Rarebird]

^^^
Interesting, but a bit pricey.

[hFx]

^^^
Interesting, but a bit pricey.

Agreed!

[hFx]

https://www.progressiveears.org/foru...l=1#post997547

The second half of this video from the Yes 90125 tour displays some classic keys from the era (yes, including the new flagship DX7 )