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    ^^ That's his long-time nickname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarplyrjvb View Post
    ^^ That's his long-time nickname.
    Ok I'm reading too much into it......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    Skunk Baxter is a hell of a musician. I think he's underrated, but I hear he's a wierdo.
    I only saw him live once with The Doobie Brothers back in the day, but thought he was a very good guitar player.

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    NP: Black Friday......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarplyrjvb View Post
    He's extremely accomplished as a musician, teacher, and a very well respected defense analyst for the US government. My brother works with him and reports that he's a great guy.
    I have seen him interviewed on counter-terrorism on CNN and elsewhere.

    Snunk trivia fact for any who don't already know: Pre-SD, he was the guitarist in the Boston 60s psych band Ultimate Spinach, who had an FM radio hit with "Pamela".
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    Quote Originally Posted by progeezer View Post
    I have seen him interviewed on counter-terrorism on CNN and elsewhere.

    Snunk trivia fact for any who don't already know: Pre-SD, he was the guitarist in the Boston 60s psych band Ultimate Spinach, who had an FM radio hit with "Pamela".
    ANd the band which morphed into Steely Dan, actually. Denny Dias' group brought Becker and Fagen in and the rest is history
    And the code is a play, a play is a song, a song is a film, a film is a dance...

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    I watched The Skunk deliver an absolutely gorgeous guitar solo while he was playing with Billy Hinsche (Dino, Desi and Billy). They're playing some lightweight powerpop song and Skunk dropped the weirdest, bizarrely beautiful solo in it. I talked with him briefly and he was cool. He told me the code to access the nukes.

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    Skunk played Telecaster and Steel Guitar. A country boy at heart.

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    Jeff Baxter is a also a missile defense consultant. The description of this on Wiki is a pretty interesting read.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Baxter

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    67 - Walter Carl Becker (born February 20, 1950)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarplyrjvb View Post
    He's extremely accomplished as a musician, teacher, and a very well respected defense analyst for the US government. My brother works with him and reports that he's a great guy.
    I kinda get the sense the the Steely guys parted company with Jeff on acrimonious terms. In the liner notes of the SD remasters the refer to him as "The Skunk" repeatedly. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
    Hey, whaddya expect from a dude whose nickname is Skunk and he allows it proudly

    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    Skunk played Telecaster and Steel Guitar. A country boy at heart.
    well he certainly skunked up Stampede ... Mind you Fault Line is not nearly as bad, probably because of the input of MMcD

    Odd thing is that you didn't hear these country influence much in early SD albums.
    my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicts to complete nutcases.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7Twg_NpQmk

    Jeff Baxter, a former rock n' roll guitarist, speaks about his current life as a defense expert. He then discusses his idea of "Asymmetrical Thinking: The Symphony Orchestra vs. The Jazz Quintet".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic2012 View Post
    Skunk Baxter is a hell of a musician. I think he's underrated, but I hear he's a wierdo.
    <groan>....... Im friends with Ian Bruce Douglas from Ultimate Spinach (at least, I used to be -- I have not seen him in years) who has some kind of issue with Skunk Baxter -- what I was told is that Skunk joined the band and pushed him out in pre Steely Dan days....I dunno, Im just relaying the drama that I heard almost every other time I had a beer or two with Ian........Incidentally, apparently Mr Baxter is into robotics and opened a private research facility here in my town

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    From what I understand, his value as a defense expert comes from an ability at lateral thinking: he tries to think out-of-the-box, think like a terrorist - something which the military men he consults for are trained not to do.

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    Big fan , I remember in music school one of the teachers used a tricky SD horn arrangement in harmony class. Their music is more complex then it appears to be and the lyrics are great. Royal scam is my favorite.

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    I have the pleasure of playing in a Steely tribute a few times a year and it's always a blast playing this music with a big ensemble (full horn section, two keyboardists, two guitars, etc). We did the whole Royal Scam album last Fall and will do Katy Lied next time.

    People have asked me what is closest to Steely but not and I usually suggest Michael McDonald era Doobie Bros as the next stop, and then Silk Degrees from Boz Scaggs. Not many approach SD's quality but those come close.

    In fact, I was part of a jam this past weekend- "Michael McDonald VS Kenny Loggins" which was a lot of fun. Tunes like Minute by Minute have as many chords as some of Steely's most complex (the intro alone) tunes. Here's vid of the whole night. We did a lot of MMD's solo works too and the best stuff Kenny did as well, along with collabs like This is It. There were some fine players on their solo stuff too. The guys from Toto are on MMDs debut.

    People often write this stuff off as quick as they do Steely's because of the slickness, but under it is a lot of harmonic and rhythmic sophistication.

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    PS Have any of you seen the Yacht Rock series on YouTube? It's a hoot. They even have an episode about Jethro Tull (which is totally an aside and has nothing to do with YR, but apparently someone there loved Tull too).


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    Quote Originally Posted by jake View Post
    Sometimes the way the Dan get the best out of the musicians on their albums reminds me of how Miles Davis did the same - some performances are close to their best recorded work
    Wayne Shorter on 'Aja'
    Steve Gadd on 'Aja'
    Phil Woods on 'Dr Wu'
    Denny Dias on 'Your Gold Teeth 2'
    Jeff Skunk Baxter on 'Bodhisattva' and ' My Old School'
    Larry Carlton on 'Kid Charlemagne'
    Elliott Randall on 'Reelin' in the Years'
    Chuck Rainey's bass work on most of Aja, and other albums as well.
    "And this is the chorus.....or perhaps it's a bridge...."

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    Good band, I like their debut.

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    Two Against Nature is an album I hold in high regard, just below Aja. Love the album but was almost put off by the lead-off single. I enjoy the song now, but thought it to be low hanging fruit and beneath these guys when I first heard it. I eventually would end up buying the CD and fell in love with songs like Jack of Speed and West of Hollywood. And of course, it is a sonic gem for audio systems.

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    The outro on West of Hollywood is one of the best 90 seconds of SD instrumental yummyness in their catalogue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progeezer View Post
    The outro on West of Hollywood is one of the best 90 seconds of SD instrumental yummyness in their catalogue.
    I think there was a thread a few years ago on all the great SD intros and outros
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    It was a lovely live first take from Potter, too. Which entertained the guys in the band and the studio audience to no end, according to Becker. They were stunned. It really is a thing of beauty.
    And the code is a play, a play is a song, a song is a film, a film is a dance...

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    It was a lovely live first take from Potter, too. Which entertained the guys in the band and the studio audience to no end, according to Becker. They were stunned. It really is a thing of beauty.
    They were lucky to get Chris Potter. He's one of the best of the current crop of tenors. Besides his own albums, check out his appearances on some Dave Holland and Dave Binney albums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musicislife View Post
    They were lucky to get Chris Potter. He's one of the best of the current crop of tenors. Besides his own albums, check out his appearances on some Dave Holland and Dave Binney albums.
    He was still establishing himself at the time, and probably could use the work and the solid paycheck.

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