SCOTCH Whisky Discussion

[NogbadTheBad]

Glenmorangie 10 is certainly an excellent choice and much better than Grouse, I rarely find it at a sluggable price in England when I'm buying for my boozy weekend.

[Firth]

Glenmorangie 10 is certainly an excellent choice and much better than Grouse, I rarely find it at a sluggable price in England when I'm buying for my boozy weekend.

So what does better mean? Can you describe the taste differences?

[Poisoned Youth]

So what does better mean? Can you describe the taste differences?

Obviously others may not agree with me, but I already described my feeling of Grouse. For me, when drinking something neat if the experience is more alcohol than flavor, it's a good sign of cheap. That's why I commented that it was like tasting "scotch flavored" grain alcohol.

Glenmorangie 10 is a classic that tends to get a bit obscured by the likes of Glenlivet and Glenfiddich at a similar price point. It's a single malt, not blended. It's aged in oak casks and bourbon, which gives the end result a sweeter flavor. It's smooth with Oak, vanilla, and fruit notes for me.

[NogbadTheBad]

So what does better mean? Can you describe the taste differences?

Morangie has a more balanced flavor, less sharp, smooth with fruity flavors, easy drinking. The Grouse is a little oilier and acerbic, less complex. I do like it but if ever given the choice I'd pick Morangie every time.

[Lopez]

Knob Creek is my go-to Bourbon, too. To me, it tastes as a bourbon should taste.

When mixing with a Coca Cola, I chose Early Times Bourbon. It's so rot-gut, but cheap, that you have to cut it with Coke.

Quick bourbon story. About 30 years ago I heard on the radio that the Heaven Hill distillery in Kentucky had burned down the night before. I was working in downtown Boston at the time. On the way to work that day, I stopped in a nearby liquor store and asked the old guy behind the counter if he had Heaven Hill. Came back with a bottle. I paid the $9.99 and then said, "I heard on the radio that the Heaven Hill distillery burned down last night." He retorted, "Well, I guess they weren't doing too well, were they?"

[moecurlythanu]

Woodford Reserve is my bourbon of choice.

[Poisoned Youth]

To bring this back to Scotch, I have been enjoying this immensely:



It's my favorite of the Laphroaig expressions I have tried. It's a mix of smokey, peat, and sweet with enough ABV (48%) to pack a bit of a wallop. The oak comes through strong and the finish is quite long. It's also generally one of the cheaper Islay options one can buy.

I just made my mouth water. Too bad it's 9:30am.

[Jerjo]

To bring this back to Scotch, I have been enjoying this immensely:



It's my favorite of the Laphroaig expressions I have tried. It's a mix of smokey, peat, and sweet with enough ABV (48%) to pack a bit of a wallop. The oak comes through strong and the finish is quite long. It's also generally one of the cheaper Islay options one can buy.

I just made my mouth water. Too bad it's 9:30am.

Years ago, on a trip to Sweden, our host produced a special bottle of Laphroaig. I hadn't developed my Scotch palate back then but I still knew I was drinking something quite extraordinary. I'll have to keep this one in mind next time I'm whisky shopping.

[moecurlythanu]

. I'll have to keep this one in mind next time I'm whisky shopping.

I'd like to, as Laphroaig is one of my favorites, but I've never seen it in the wild.

[Poisoned Youth]

Years ago, on a trip to Sweden, our host produced a special bottle of Laphroaig. I hadn't developed my Scotch palate back then but I still knew I was drinking something quite extraordinary. I'll have to keep this one in mind next time I'm whisky shopping.

I know what you mean. It took me a little bit to acquire the taste, but now I almost always have at least one Ardbeg and Laphroiag product at the house.

[Zeuhlmate]

yes, its pretty good !

To bring this back to Scotch, I have been enjoying this immensely:



It's my favorite of the Laphroaig expressions I have tried. It's a mix of smokey, peat, and sweet with enough ABV (48%) to pack a bit of a wallop. The oak comes through strong and the finish is quite long. It's also generally one of the cheaper Islay options one can buy.

I just made my mouth water. Too bad it's 9:30am.

[NogbadTheBad]

I had a bottle of that a couple of years ago and it's certainly my favorite by them. This is probably my favorite I have in the house right now:-

[Poisoned Youth]

I had a bottle of that a couple of years ago and it's certainly my favorite by them. This is probably my favorite I have in the house right now:-

I have only ever had the Lagavulin 16 which I found rather unremarkable, especially considering the price point. It was also much closer to Bowmore, Talisker, and perhaps Oban than it was to Ardbeg and Laphroiag (which I admittedly expected since it's an Islay).

[Trane]

Oooohhh... definitely gotta check out the WOT forum more often...

Glenmorangie Lasanta 12 - So far, my favorite. This one is aged 10 years in oak casks and finished in sherry casks. I find the flavor really comes alive and I like to have it before dinner.

Glenmorangie Quinta Ruban 12 - I liked the Lasanta so I tried the QR, which is finished in port casks. This is also quite flavorful, but I prefer the Lasanta.

Aberlour 12 - The jury is still out on this. I like it, but can't find much distinctive to say about it.

The Dalmore 12 - I thought this one had a lot of character.

The Macallan 12 - One of the first two I purchased. Smooth and impressive.

Glenlivet 12 - Smooth and inoffensive. After sampling Glenfiddich, I'm surprised Glenlivet isn't more popular. Good to introduce someone to Scotch perhaps?

Ardbeg 10 - My experiment with "peaty" whisky. I think my biggest two problems with Ardbeg is the whiff of chemical like lighter fluid that I get in the nose, and the idea that I feel like I've licked a rubber ash tray even minutes after. That said, ultimately I think it's okay if it wasn't so concentrated. This is perhaps why I like a blend like JW Black in which the smokey/peaty taste exists as an afterthought.

So I seem to prefer the highlands so far. While I'd like to taste Lagavulin, I won't likely be buying a bottle of it anytime soon.

the QR and Lasanta Morangies are fantastic, but I'm not so dithyrambic on the Sauternes-casked Nectar D'Or

Aberlours are amongst my absolutely faves, but you've got to go past the 10 and 12... But the 15, 18 and Adbunah are tremendous... and Aberlour is amongst the lesser expensive malts in the old world, and probably the best quality/price ratio
Dalmore and Macallan - read what I write below
Livet and Fiddich are typical Spey malts, but close to entry level, IMHO

Ardbeg is the utmost medicinal taste you can find... The smokiest would be Laphroiagh >> both rank as my lowest-rated Scot malts.
Lagavullin is closer to Bowmore and Talisker (or Jura) than to Ardbeg or Laphroiagh, but it's still too tough a drink for my delicate palate ... Definitely peaier than smoky

But my favorites are Lagavullin and Caol Ila. Both pricy though. I like Laphroig and Ardbeg too though. Those peaty ones are my favorites.

Got five bottles in my Brussels pad and four in my Dutch pad, but one thing is for sure: I tend to avoid the islands malts, as I can't help feeling like I'm drinking them from an uncleaned ashtray

Macallan 12
Macallan rare cask

20/25 years ago, Macallan was my fave distiller, but I've found much better since and their latest expressions are IMHO rather weak: both Amber and Gold ahave little after-taste in mouth.

When we splurge (ie, anything beyond the typical Glenfiddich or Glenlivet), our go-to single malt is now 15 year old Dalmore.

Dalmore is now my fetish distiller... One day, I'll find the River collection (brewed and diluted with the waters from four different rivers in Scotland)

Unpeated Islay whiskey. Now that I've got to try. Thanks for the notice, Dave.

That's not the only one, though... but that one is kind of an exception... if you like weird blue-painted bottles.
And there are a few that aren't that smoky (read above and below), but rather peaty (difference that is nowadays not subtle anymore to me... Smoky (Laphroiagh) is like an ashtray, while peaty malts have an earthier smell)

For the novice, what is meant by "peated" ?

Well I think there is only one Scott distiller that doesn't use peat (and water) to germinate the barley, but peat is often used to much greater extent (or differently anyways) on the Western Isles than on the highlands or the Spey valley malts - and the Lowland malts I've tasted so far are not very "peaty" either

My favorite is Auchentoshan. Not easy to get in the US but worth it. It's Glaswegian and, unusually for a Scotch (more typical of Irish), it's triple distilled. Very tasty stuff.

Go for the Auchentoshan triple wood.... It's an assembly of three barrels, but unlike the usual "finishes", they're matured for the duration in their casks. This gives an unusual amount of matter/solids in the "spirit" ...

To you, what is the difference between rye and Canadian Whisky. Up here, rye IS Canadian Whisky...

Well, that was our GWN wisdom in the 70's... We had the rye and the US had their bourbon, but apparently it's more subtle than that.

I believe rye is corn-derived whiskeys, bourbons are wheat whiskys (not entirely sure about this, as I'm no expert on bourbons) while the Scots use barley only for the single malts

I have only ever had the Lagavulin 16 which I found rather unremarkable, especially considering the price point. It was also much closer to Bowmore, Talisker, and perhaps Oban than it was to Ardbeg and Laphroiag (which I admittedly expected since it's an Islay).

Totally agree.

[Firth]

Oooohhh... definitely



Go for the Auchentoshan triple wood....

That's what she said[emoji6]

[NogbadTheBad]

I like the Glenlivet 12 is a Speyside single malt, very drinkable, smooth and fruity. I think I have half a bottle left in the cupboard at the moment.

[Sputnik]

I like the Glenlivet 12 is a Speyside single malt, very drinkable, smooth and fruity. I think I have half a bottle left in the cupboard at the moment.

Sounds like my kind of Scotch! I'll crack it open soon!

Bill

[Poisoned Youth]

Sounds like my kind of Scotch! I'll crack it open soon!

Bill

The Glenlivet could certainly be described as a classic, great for the noob, and what I would describe as very inoffensive. It's because it feels so "vanilla" to me after trying so many other things that it's not something I would run out and buy. But I would never refuse a glass of it offered to me either.

[Sputnik]

The Glenlivet could certainly be described as a classic, great for the noob, and what I would describe as very inoffensive. It's because it feels so "vanilla" to me after trying so many other things that it's not something I would run out and buy. But I would never refuse a glass of it offered to me either.

Good. I'll put myself largely in the "noob" category when it comes to whiskeys, though I have tried a pretty wide variety. I still come back to the lighter styles, which may be an indication I just haven't developed a taste for the peatier stuff, or that I really prefer the lighter type. I'd have to experience more, and do it more consistently, to tell for sure.

Come up to Boston some time, we'll catch a Sox game and I'll break out the Glenlevit, and what's left of my Penderyn!

[NogbadTheBad]

Good. I'll put myself largely in the "noob" category when it comes to whiskeys, though I have tried a pretty wide variety. I still come back to the lighter styles, which may be an indication I just haven't developed a taste for the peatier stuff, or that I really prefer the lighter type. I'd have to experience more, and do it more consistently, to tell for sure.

Come up to Boston some time, we'll catch a Sox game and I'll break out the Glenlevit, and what's left of my Penderyn!

I'm IN

[Poisoned Youth]

Good. I'll put myself largely in the "noob" category when it comes to whiskeys, though I have tried a pretty wide variety. I still come back to the lighter styles, which may be an indication I just haven't developed a taste for the peatier stuff, or that I really prefer the lighter type. I'd have to experience more, and do it more consistently, to tell for sure.

Come up to Boston some time, we'll catch a Sox game and I'll break out the Glenlevit, and what's left of my Penderyn!

That sounds like a great plan. If we all bring bottles, we will blitzed before the first pitch.

[per anporth]

The Glenlivet could certainly be described as a classic, great for the noob, and what I would describe as very inoffensive. It's because it feels so "vanilla" to me after trying so many other things that it's not something I would run out and buy. But I would never refuse a glass of it offered to me either.

Funnily enough, one of the dominant tastes in the Glenlivet is "vanilla" - or close to brown sugar! So, yes, definitely "vanilla"!

In Scotland, there are many malts that call themselves Glenlivet - including an excellent one bottled by Gordon & MacPhail. Similarly, there are many different ages, & "The" Glenlivet, at 15, is a fine whisky - significantly more complex than the 12.

[Staun]

Sounds like my kind of Scotch! I'll crack it open soon!

Bill

I did a bottle this weekend and it was excellent. I have a quarter left, it was so good I can't believe I drank that much of it.

[Yves]

Laphroaig Quarter Cask is not for the uninitiated . There is nothing subtle about it. One of the best values for your dollar though.

Ian, I too am currently on a bottle of the double matures Lagavullin. Might be the best from them I ever had.

[NogbadTheBad]

Was wondering when you'd show up!