Remix of A Momentary Lapse of Reason

[battema]

So..is it any good and should I get it?

If you like the original album I think it's a fascinating alternate mix. Some of the changes are unexpectedly jarring at first ("One Slip") but some of the tunes took on entirely new lives for me. A few tunes I still prefer on the original mix, especially the instrumentals.

If you didn't like the original, I'm not sure this will convince you otherwise.

[Trane]

So..is it any good and should I get it?

If you like the album enough to have it a second time, why not?
I haven't owned it since coming back to Europe in 1990, and I don't miss it one bit.

Yeah, the remix/remaster does sound better, but the music/songs remains the (poor) same.
Not worth it really, IMHO.

[Steve983]

If you like the original album I think it's a fascinating alternate mix. Some of the changes are unexpectedly jarring at first ("One Slip") but some of the tunes took on entirely new lives for me. A few tunes I still prefer on the original mix, especially the instrumentals.

If you didn't like the original, I'm not sure this will convince you otherwise.

Agreed, I love (most of) the original and the remix is possibly even better.

[chalkpie]

Sounds like the snare drum track was on 'mute' when they mixed this album. I think there is a broken concert band snare drum from 1983 in my elementary school that has more punch and definition.

[Hunchentootz]

If you like the original album I think it's a fascinating alternate mix. Some of the changes are unexpectedly jarring at first ("One Slip") but some of the tunes took on entirely new lives for me. A few tunes I still prefer on the original mix, especially the instrumentals.

If you didn't like the original, I'm not sure this will convince you otherwise.

'One Slip' was ruined for me. It lost it's power.

[Kcrimso]

Not a big fan of this album and I don't think that remix helped much. I kinda beforehand expected that it would benefit from remix more.

My review of the original album: https://pienemmatpurot.com/review-pi...f-reason-1987/

[vmartell]

Not a big fan of this album and I don't think that remix helped much. I kinda beforehand expected that it would benefit from remix more.

My review of the original album: https://pienemmatpurot.com/review-pi...f-reason-1987/

Very well written review - you have developed a great site (and resource) - thanks for your efforts.


Music and taste is subjective. One person's masterpiece is another's unbearable trash. I am on the side of those who enjoyed it, although clearly, is not a masterpiece as per both consensus and IMHO. But I liked it... Favourite track, "On The Turning Away"

That said, not sure if I have said it before in this thread, but, without discussing the subjective notion of whether is good or bad - as that is of course subjective - my opinion is that if you were bothered by the very 80s production style, I do believe the remix solves that successfully.

And IMHO makes it sound a lot more like PF. I believe there are two things going for the remix:

- No robot drumming, no electronic drums, no gated snares, drier vocals. Like or not like the songs, to the current zeitgeist, all of that is an improvement. I agree, IMHO

- Nick's drumming instead of Jim Keltner, Carmine Appice, and the robot drums makes it more characteristically Floyd. Also, MORE RICK! I hear some organ added which I believe is came from Rick's live performances of the material. All that makes the album a better forgery! - To make it more authentically PF, they should have removed Tony Levin's bass, have Gilmour perform it and give credit to Roger Waters for it !

I believe AMLOR was the perfect album for PF's comeback. I want to contrast with ELP's "Works Vol 1" - they botched that. IMHO, not a great album for a comeback during that time.

ALL IMHO, of course.

[Kcrimso]

Very well written review - you have developed a great site (and resource) - thanks for your efforts.


Music and taste is subjective. One person's masterpiece is another's unbearable trash. I am on the side of those who enjoyed it, although clearly, is not a masterpiece as per both consensus and IMHO. But I liked it... Favourite track, "On The Turning Away"

That said, not sure if I have said it before in this thread, but, without discussing the subjective notion of whether is good or bad - as that is of course subjective - my opinion is that if you were bothered by the very 80s production style, I do believe the remix solves that successfully.

And IMHO makes it sound a lot more like PF. I believe there are two things going for the remix:

- No robot drumming, no electronic drums, no gated snares, drier vocals. Like or not like the songs, to the current zeitgeist, all of that is an improvement. I agree, IMHO

- Nick's drumming instead of Jim Keltner, Carmine Appice, and the robot drums makes it more characteristically Floyd. Also, MORE RICK! I hear some organ added which I believe is came from Rick's live performances of the material. All that makes the album a better forgery! - To make it more authentically PF, they should have removed Tony Levin's bass, have Gilmour perform it and give credit to Roger Waters for it !

I believe AMLOR was the perfect album for PF's comeback. I want to contrast with ELP's "Works Vol 1" - they botched that. IMHO, not a great album for a comeback during that time.

ALL IMHO, of course.

Thanks for the compliments!

And yes; I too expected that all the changes you listed above would make me enjoy the album much more, but that didn't really happen.

[vmartell]

Thanks for the compliments!

And yes; I too expected that all the changes you listed above would make me enjoy the album much more, but that didn't really happen.

Indeed - obviously it was not only the production that bothered you - that is clear from your review! I guess that I was initially more positively inclined in that I expected AMLOR to sound like it did. While not the best example of a Gilmour lead Floyd, it was, well, exactly that. And to me that was expected. I even expected the collaborations and outside musicians and lyricists. Specially with the lyrics, it was obvious Gilmour would need help with that. The Wall and TFC also had quite a few outside musicians, BTW.

My point is that it had happened once - the Syd-less Floyd was very different from the Syd-led Floyd. Had to happen again with the Gilmour-led Floyd. It's up to the individual, of course, but with all that in mind, again, I liked AMLOR. And I also agree that TDB is much better example of a Gilmour-led Floyd. I could even call it Gilmour-Wright-led Floyd... Maybe that was the secret sauce in TDB.

all IMHO, of course.

[Jerjo]

I like Gilmour-Wright Floyd, the remix works for me. The lyrics aren't the level of Roger's, the melodies and riffs are far superior to Waters' solo stuff. As far as outside musicians, that's nothing new for Floyd. Are these albums comparable to the group's prime? No, and frankly, that's OK. It's still miles above their many imitators.

[Hour Candle]

If you like the original album I think it's a fascinating alternate mix.

I do like the original album alot actually, and I don't mind the sort of 80's sound/production. That was the time and it does add to the charm IMHO.

Having said that, I'm very curious about this new remixed version.

[MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER]

To make it more authentically PF, they should have removed Tony Levin's bass, have Gilmour perform it and give credit to Roger Waters for it !
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heh... good point

I like Gilmour-Wright Floyd, the remix works for me. The lyrics aren't the level of Roger's, the melodies and riffs are far superior to Waters' solo stuff. As far as outside musicians, that's nothing new for Floyd. Are these albums comparable to the group's prime? No, and frankly, that's OK. It's still miles above their many imitators.

that about sums up my opinion as well

[dropforge]

LP sighting!!!

[MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER]

I'm old...

but I aint dead yet

[dropforge]

Good to see ya, Elpee! What's in the player (or on the turntable)?

[MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER]

been going thru the B section of my vinyl and doing my personal remasters... working on Il Baricentro, The Bar Kays, David Bedford, Banda Elastica, Brass Construction, Brand X, BT Express, Be Bop Deluxe, George Benson and Kate Bush among others