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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    They're actually releasing yet another album as well?! Somehow I jumped to the conclusion that their scale of recording and consequent issue would decrease with the setbacks of their latests label commodity. Anyways, these are great news.
    They told me about it before we did "Putting Off Death" and it was already planned by then for SkinGraft, with my 'sure, just make sure it comes out at least 9 months later than POD', and it is, so everyone is happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    When scrolling through their roster across the run so far, I have to say that this is highly impressive. This festival truly emphasizes the music, with a most eclectic programme displaying practically all imaginable variations on the "prog" norm.
    Really?? I thought they leaned rather heavily in the 'prog-metal' or 'technical-metal' areas, with guitars, guitars, growly vocals and more guitars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve F. View Post
    They told me about it before we did "Putting Off Death" and it was already planned by then for SkinGraft, with my 'sure, just make sure it comes out at least 9 months later than POD', and it is, so everyone is happy.
    Yes, I suppose Skin Graft are happy to release more of their ol' buds C-A. SG have been on somehwat of a roll in recent years, although I can give or take much of it - and frankly I fear for the future of the 'rehearsal-intensive' skrimish in rock now that Cunei are adjusting to the times; the necessity of which I perfectly understand, but the omen of which many others simply don't seem to.
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    Really?? I thought they leaned rather heavily in the 'prog-metal' or 'technical-metal' areas, with guitars, guitars, growly vocals and more guitars.
    Yup, but switching from that to Miriodor or MoeTar or Thinking Plague through singular soloperformers to avant-Americana etc. still makes for a different approach than alternating between castratevibrato-metal-with-chops and retro-mascaralinen-and-flowerpot-hats-doing-"sympho"-theatrics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    When scrolling through their roster across the run so far, I have to say that this is highly impressive. This festival truly emphasizes the music, with a most eclectic programme displaying practically all imaginable variations on the "prog" norm. Meaning that they're obviously also very conscious about inclusions and basically knowledgeable on the whole 'phenomenon' of the - uhm - genre.

    In other words, not just yet another stereotypical "proggyprog" Exhibition, but something actually worth absorbing. More people should know about this endeavour.
    Part of it is that Dennis Rea - one of the promoters - greatly prefers small-p-progressive music to Big-P-Prog, so that's the kind of headliners they tend to get. And part of it is that for budget reasons, they draw heavily on the local Seattle avant-fusion scene. Which, because of the presence of Cornish College of the Arts, Wayne Horvitz and his various bands, and Cuong Vu's jazz program at U of W, is quite a lot better than you might think. Plus there's always a certain amount of oddball folk, and a few odds-and-sods bands from small towns, where three or four guys grew up listening to Primus, Mr. Bungle, and extreme metal, hung out together, and learned to play that kind of stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrotum Scissor View Post
    .. alternating between castratevibrato-metal-with-chops and retro-mascaralinen-and-flowerpot-hats-doing-"sympho"-theatrics.
    But I LOVE castratevibrato-metal-with-chops and retro-mascaralinen-and-flowerpot-hats-doing-sympho-theatrics bands.

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    ^ #METOO. I just don't want 'em things to be goin' on in the Seattle area. They're more of a Syracuse- and Midwestern concern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    Really?? I thought they leaned rather heavily in the 'prog-metal' or 'technical-metal' areas, with guitars, guitars, growly vocals and more guitars.
    That may be a matter of what local acts are available, or simply which ones present themselves to the promoters. And I don't think there's ever been more than two or three of those particular types per year. Various types of jazz/rock are probably as common, mostly done by college kids or recent graduates. There's even been a few dinosaurs from the grunge era, guys who liked Crimson as much as they liked Black Flag and Sabbath.

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    ^ Yes, I was - I know. Some folx can't run fast enough to the keyboard in order to announce how much they're weeping at the loss of their fave band's bass or harp player, others tend to kinda shut down when disaster finally strikes. Possibly because the latter often are more pessimistic to begin with and so won't be prone to much shock.

    But we're not through discussing your label's artists by a long shot. First we have to talk out about the eventual future of names whose last/latest contributions of note appeared to happen merely decades back.
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    First of all, thanks Steve for starting this thread.

    I'm one of the (new) organizers of the Seaprog Festival. We are pretty excited about the bands that we have lined up for this year. There's still a pretty cool announcement to be made (we hope) for Sunday.

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    So, here's a question for you, if we were thinking of flying into Seattle for Seaprog but also wanted to visit Portland for a couple of days, what would be your plan of attack? Fly in and out of Seattle, and rent a car at the airport and drive to Portland for a couple of days?

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    Portland is about 2.5 hours from Seattle. That would certainly be an option. You could also fly out of Portland if you chose to head down there after the fest.

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    Amtrak is a comfortable and surprisingly affordable option. I think it's like $49 or $69 which is approximately the cost of driving. Three hours sitting and taking in the beautiful coastline is a LOT more fun than three hours on the freeway.

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    If you go to Portland, a pub crawl is in order.

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    Seattle is better to fly into and out of - it's a bigger city, so more and cheaper flights.

    Quote Originally Posted by rcarlberg View Post
    Amtrak is a comfortable and surprisingly affordable option. I think it's like $49 or $69 which is approximately the cost of driving. Three hours sitting and taking in the beautiful coastline is a LOT more fun than three hours on the freeway.
    Except that then you can't take in the Portland-area scenery. And while there are plenty of enjoyable things to do in the city, a day visiting the waterfalls in the Columbia Gorge and driving up onto Mount Hood is very much worth the trip. (Right now, though, much of the area is closed - it's still recovering from the fires last year.)

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    Rent a car in Portland. Stay overnight. Amtrak north again, jump over to the light rail at King Street Station to Sea-Tac and fly out.

    By the way, the Amtrak fare is $26 each way Seattle <--> Portland.

    Of course, if you opt to drive to Portland instead the side trip to Mount St. Helens is worth the effort.

    And no trip to Portland would be complete without a visit to Powell's and a visit to Music Millennium.
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    I would come up from Redding to see Bubblemath if I could afford it but there's so many other expenses and I don't know the other bands. Bubblemath will blow minds though. I chose Edit Peptide for best album of 2017.

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    Bubblemath, good but dude needs to learn to shut up with the overkill vocals. They have great potential but the annoying vocals in the same modern prog tone is killing it IMO.

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    Love me some Cheer-Accident , one band I would sure like to see. They have it all working for me. But who cares about WTF I think anyway!!

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    No ticket info on the website. How much? What's the closest motel? I technically could drive it but would rather make it a sleepover (I only live about an hour and a half away). I'll be camping out at the Spurfest (yawn) the weekend before so I don't know if I'll be up for an entire weekend.

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    CA, FSE, Bubblemath. You have a nice time whoever attends. I hate you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3LockBox View Post
    No ticket info on the website. How much? What's the closest motel? I technically could drive it but would rather make it a sleepover (I only live about an hour and a half away). I'll be camping out at the Spurfest (yawn) the weekend before so I don't know if I'll be up for an entire weekend.
    The nearest motels are at the airport - not within walking distance at all. While the organizers are very happy with the neighborhood (lots of restaurants, pleasant to walk), and the venue (good sound, thoroughly professional, and the managers + employees like them), that's the one headache. The out-of-town bands have to drive eight or ten miles or be driven in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3LockBox View Post
    No ticket info on the website. How much?
    Last year a festival pass was $75, or $40 for Saturday and $40 for Sunday. I expect 2018 will be in the same ballpark.

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    Looks like there are a couple of B&Bs near the venue.

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    Unlike previous years, all 3 nights are in the same venue. The ticket prices this year will be $75 for the whole festival, or $30 each for individual days. We are not doing free Friday this year. There will be no single-band admission prices. Tickets will go on sale sometime next week - we will post a new thread when they are on sale.

    Be aware that Columbia City Theater is a 21+ only venue.

    The nearest hotels are near the airport (cheaper) or in downtown Seattle (pricey). Both are about 15 minutes from the venue by light rail, plus an easy half-mile walk to the venue. Or if you prefer, Lyft or Uber work well; get some friends together and split the cost and it would be pretty cheap.

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