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    Quote Originally Posted by Hal... View Post
    I didn't particularly care for Mulholland Dr. And if you think that one's nonsensical, you should see Inland Empire, which is Lynch's most inaccessible. It's also his longest (3 hours!). I've seen it twice and that's enough for me. I've seen MD twice, too, and don't care if I ever see it again.

    Lost Highway, is also in the same vein as the aforementioned two, except that it is more sinister and ominous; a mildly surreal, neo-noir. I feel like there's an internal logic to it, even if you can't figure out what that logic is. Indeed, many years ago, I read there is some sort of psychological basis to the plot twist, even tho Lynch refuses to talk about the meaning of it, or his films in general. Anyway, that film seems much more like an allegory to me, rather than some surrealistic parable like the other two.

    I love Lost Highway. It's my favorite Lynch film.
    I think I'd go with The Elephant Mn or Blue Velvet. Can't remember if I've seen Lost Highway but I'll try to track it down. I've never seen Eraserhead but I remember in high school that my friends would get stoned and watch it.
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    Watched Monkey Man (2024, Dev Patel) on dvd. All you need to know, from imdb: "An anonymous young man unleashes a campaign of vengeance against the corrupt leaders who murdered his mother and continue to systematically victimize the poor and powerless." Very good action flick.

    12/19/24: I forgot to mention Monkey Man features an appearance and tabla playing by the late maestro Zakir Hussain. Monkey Man does not feature the Rolling Stones song "Monkey Man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by spellbound View Post
    Watched Monkey Man (2024, Dev Patel) on dvd. All you need to know, from imdb: "An anonymous young man unleashes a campaign of vengeance against the corrupt leaders who murdered his mother and continue to systematically victimize the poor and powerless." Very good action flick.
    Yeah. Pretty awesome revenge/action flick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mozo-pg View Post
    I think I'd go with The Elephant Man or Blue Velvet.
    Both are great movies, but they're conventional compared with Eraserhead, Lost Highway, Mulholland Dr, and Inland Empire.

    I've never seen Eraserhead but I remember in high school that my friends would get stoned and watch it.
    The first time I saw it I was tripping. Boy, was that a mistake!

    Of the four, Eraserhead is the most surreal. But I also think it's the most accessible of those four.

    As for Lost Highway, the best way to describe it is Blue Velvet meets Mulholland Dr. It's pretty straight forward like BV (and malevolent like BV), but then has a twist, à la MD, that makes you think, "WTF just happened?!" And then it's pretty much straight forward, again. Except it's not, really. Especially considering Patricia Arquette plays two different roles (or are they?) and Robert Blake plays the most enigmatic character in the history of cinema.

    I seem to recall a reviewer likening the narrative to a Möbius strip, and I think that's a very apt description.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mozo-pg View Post
    I finished Mulholland Drive - same impression as the first 5 minutes. Makes no sense. It was intriguing though.
    Read the Wikipedia about it as it explains much about it and I found it helpful. Then a lot of what the movie is about starts to gel a bit more. Generally I don't care for films where it's abstract/ambigious/nebulous. I don't think the audience should have to go somewhere for an explaination on what they just saw--I think that's the director's goal to create a story that makes sense. I can give Lynch a pass as I think he does have an artist or creative talent with something to say. But it seems more directors have gone this direction, and I find it a bit of sham.

    As far as Lynch, I've enjoy most of them with the exeption of Inland Empire, which I've not fully watched all the way thru. I also liked Wild at Heart, which was fairly straightforward and The Straight Story, which may be his most accessible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveSly View Post
    I have seen all but one of those, but have no clue what any of them have to do with Thanksgiving. Regarding the movie "Thanksgiving" that is on my list to check out.
    I agree, that was a dumb list. They must have pulled it outta some guy's ass sleeping on a part bench somewthere. I agree with Hal: Planes, Trains, and Automobiles is a good one, and Hannah and Her Sisters is too. But although it's a great film, I don't know how a mixed audience might view Allen these days, I still respect his work, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hippypants View Post
    Read the Wikipedia about it as it explains much about it and I found it helpful. Then a lot of what the movie is about starts to gel a bit more. Generally I don't care for films where it's abstract/ambigious/nebulous. I don't think the audience should have to go somewhere for an explaination on what they just saw--I think that's the director's goal to create a story that makes sense. I can give Lynch a pass as I think he does have an artist or creative talent with something to say. But it seems more directors have gone this direction, and I find it a bit of sham.

    As far as Lynch, I've enjoy most of them with the exeption of Inland Empire, which I've not fully watched all the way thru. I also liked Wild at Heart, which was fairly straightforward and The Straight Story, which may be his most accessible.
    If it helps, think of Lynch flicks, esp. the more obscure ones, as "Dreams." I love most of them (Eraserhead was a "Watched it once, never again" experience though....) but they do not have linear, logical plots...they are more like dreamscapes, or dream narratives......
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    Quote Originally Posted by wideopenears View Post
    If it helps, think of Lynch flicks, esp. the more obscure ones, as "Dreams." I love most of them but they do not have linear, logical plots...they are more like dreamscapes, or dream narratives......
    Exactly. Lynch is, first and foremost, an artist, a filmmaker second. In fact, he went to art school to become a painter. Many years ago, I read an article about him. The author talked about how Lynch was painting and a moth flew into the canvas and got stuck in the paint. Lynch looked at it for a moment and then decided he liked it and left it there.

    He's a very unique guy who was an Eagle Scout, started smoking when he was 8, but then quit two years ago after he developed emphysema. He'd been smoking for 68 years!
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    Lynch movies movies are so fun to look at and listen to, but I couldn't explain the plot of one of them
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    Wild at Heart and Blue Velvet for me. So much great weirdness.

    Which reminds me of this awesome DL interview:

    "That gum you like is going to come back in style."

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    David Lynch films I have seen:
    blue velvet
    dune
    elephant man
    inland empire
    lost highway
    mulholland drive
    the straight story
    wild at heart

    i don't remember if i've seen eraserhead

    wild at heart is probably my favorite, but I don't dislike any of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spellbound View Post
    David Lynch films I have seen:
    blue velvet
    dune
    elephant man
    inland empire
    lost highway
    mulholland drive
    the straight story
    wild at heart

    i don't remember if i've seen eraserhead

    wild at heart is probably my favorite, but I don't dislike any of them.
    I've seen all but Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me.

    I consider myself a big fan of Lynch, but his only movies I'll ever watch again are Eraserhead, The Elephant Man, Blue Velvet, The Straight Story, and Lost Highway.

    I never saw TP:FWWM because of the negative reactions from friends and the negative press. But after reading about its legacy, I think I was hasty in deciding not to see it. I found it available on Max and added it to my watch list, especially after reading this on Wikipedia:

    Mary Sweeney, the film's editor, said, "they so badly wanted it to be like the TV show, and it wasn't. It was a David Lynch feature. And people were very angry about it. They felt betrayed."
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    According to [the film's] cinematographer Ron Garcia, the film was popular in Japan, in particular with women. As Martha Nochimson wrote in her book on Lynch's work, "he surmises that the enthusiasm of the Japanese women comes from a gratification of seeing in Laura some acknowledgment of their suffering in a repressive society." Released under the title Twin Peaks: The Last Seven Days of Laura Palmer, it was greeted with long lines of moviegoers at theaters.

    That piqued my interest.
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    I didn't watch any Twin Peaks movies because I missed seeing the Twin Peaks TV show. There have been times in my life when TV was not available because of where I lived, and other times when I ignored TV because I wanted to concentrate on college, foolishly believing what we were told, that a good education and good grades and honest hard work were the key to a good job. Still other times when TV just bored the crap out of me. Anyway, I thought watching the TV series Twin Peaks was a prerequisite for watching the movie(s). I do enjoy Lynch's filmmaking, though. Now I'm ready to give up on TV again. You can guess why. Reality is weirder than a David Lynch movie.

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