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  1. #1151
    Quote Originally Posted by Rarebird View Post
    WOW! I'm really impressed.
    Thank you very much for listening and commenting on our music again Renate. We appreciate it. From a fellow Cubase user.

  2. #1152
    Quote Originally Posted by cmillerjr View Post
    Thank you very much for listening and commenting on our music again Renate. We appreciate it. From a fellow Cubase user.
    I saw you also used Cubase. I think it would give me a hard time to switch to something else, even though I have used a few other programs before Cubase. Alas Cubase 13 came with some bugs, that I hope has disappeared with the latest updates.

  3. #1153
    Quote Originally Posted by Rarebird View Post
    I saw you also used Cubase. I think it would give me a hard time to switch to something else, even though I have used a few other programs before Cubase. Alas Cubase 13 came with some bugs, that I hope has disappeared with the latest updates.
    I used Cubase 11 mostly for this project. I upgraded to Cubase 12 mid-project but didn't use it much because of some issues with MIDI remote control. I have a little 3-button USB footswitch that I use when recording acoustic guitars for punch-ins... I couldn't get Cubase 12 to work with it. It is nice that projects can be opened in either version and remain backwards compatible though.

    I used Logic for a long time but switched to Cubase 7 to take advantage of Expression Maps as I started using a lot of keyswitched Kontakt instruments. I haven't upgraded to Cubase 13 yet.

  4. #1154
    Yep, sounds terrific Chuck! Really well done

  5. #1155
    Quote Originally Posted by cmillerjr View Post
    I used Cubase 11 mostly for this project. I upgraded to Cubase 12 mid-project but didn't use it much because of some issues with MIDI remote control. I have a little 3-button USB footswitch that I use when recording acoustic guitars for punch-ins... I couldn't get Cubase 12 to work with it. It is nice that projects can be opened in either version and remain backwards compatible though.

    I used Logic for a long time but switched to Cubase 7 to take advantage of Expression Maps as I started using a lot of keyswitched Kontakt instruments. I haven't upgraded to Cubase 13 yet.
    I use Cubase since I switched from a Commodore Amiga to an Atari, I think somewhere in 1994. Switched to Windows and stayed with Cubase. The last version I had before Cubase 13 Pro was, Cubase 8 Pro. Last year I tried a trial-version of Cubase 12, which I liked, but when I wanted to upgrade, the Cubase store was closed and they had to find a new partner. When that switch was ready, Cubase 13 Pro was out, so I upgraded to that.

  6. #1156
    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    Yep, sounds terrific Chuck! Really well done
    Thanks for listening and commenting John. I've been listening to your Festival Of Change on Bandcamp and I really like it. I'm going to give it a second listen in my studio (big speakers) along with Renate's music as our current project is finally finished.

    Chuck

  7. #1157
    Quote Originally Posted by cmillerjr View Post
    Thanks for listening and commenting John. I've been listening to your Festival Of Change on Bandcamp and I really like it. I'm going to give it a second listen in my studio (big speakers) along with Renate's music as our current project is finally finished.

    Chuck
    Yay, I'm still not sucking too badly Glad you liked it!
    If you're actually reading this then chances are you already have my last album but if NOT and you're curious:
    https://battema.bandcamp.com/

    Also, Ephemeral Sun: it's a thing and we like making things that might be your thing: https://ephemeralsun.bandcamp.com

  8. #1158
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    I'm posting our Sunday Gnat jams on Soundcloud to check out if you like!

    https://soundcloud.com/user-354583491
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  9. #1159
    Stupid question maybe, but if I have my music on Bandcamp, Youtube, Spotify, Tidal etc. do I need SoundCloud? Not putting it down at all, just curious how it compares to BandCamp for example.

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    I think that it is very fair to point out that SoundCloud has struggled to keep pace with the rest of the services simply as it's old and as a result has to provide for it's legacy content. When all is said and done , BandCamp remains the firm favourite of the majority of artists producing in the 20's. It certainly handles releases and merch more effectively. This is affirmed by the number of world class artists and bands that employ it.
    I listen to SoundCloud mainly as I subscribe to a podcast which is released monthly. I also enjoy the way that SoundCloud fires randomly selected tracks at you when the track you have played finishes .
    Re listens. I absolutely hate the fake likes and follows that SoundCloud allows and promotes. I personally know a guy who has paid for this and he has over 12k followers while his plays remain soberly realistic.
    Re YouTube. Until the default is to allow the audio to continue whilst the screen is off . I will only watch snippets. BandCamp is almost perfect. I just wish the streaming was a little more like the old MySpace radio.

  11. #1161
    Quote Originally Posted by Pekka View Post
    Stupid question maybe, but if I have my music on Bandcamp, Youtube, Spotify, Tidal etc. do I need SoundCloud? Not putting it down at all, just curious how it compares to BandCamp for example.
    I use Bandcamp mostly for full albums and SoundCloud for individual tracks. What I like about SoundCloud is the possibility that people can react on your music.

    I'm only getting annoyed by people who seem to like everything and try to convince me I should buy likes. I don't see any use in that. Why should I spend money on something if it doesn't bring me any returns? Just for some weird kind of ego satisfaction? If I pay for 1,000 likes, I have paid for 1,000 likes. This doesn't mean 1,000 people like my music. Who should I be fooling?

  12. #1162
    Thanks Renate and Clivey!

  13. #1163
    I hadn't realized that buying clicks/likes was an actual thing on Soundcloud...so, got curious and read up. Ah, ok. Basically it's like any of the other "competitive" models where the more clicks/likes you have, the more likely you are to be one of those featured/random offerings that SC will serve up. Pay to get bumped up by their algorithm and then hope that organic activity takes over if your song is good enough.

    I think most of us here are approaching things very differently, regardless of which tool/platform we're using: we're not expecting to ever be served up via any front pages or "top songs to hear" algorithms. Instead, we put our content up there and then share links directly with our intended audience (i.e. here on PE or something else).

    Now, someone might think they have a hidden gem on their hands (and hey, they very well might!) in which case they might want to try and reach a wider audience. There's SO much noise out there right now that it'd be damned near impossible to rise above the ocean of small artists organically. So, I could see someone trying a paid "bump" just to see if maybe they could get noticed.
    If you're actually reading this then chances are you already have my last album but if NOT and you're curious:
    https://battema.bandcamp.com/

    Also, Ephemeral Sun: it's a thing and we like making things that might be your thing: https://ephemeralsun.bandcamp.com

  14. #1164
    Since I rarely make total sense this early in the morning Here's an article that talks about it in more detail.

    https://smgains.com/what-are-the-rea...-or-followers/
    If you're actually reading this then chances are you already have my last album but if NOT and you're curious:
    https://battema.bandcamp.com/

    Also, Ephemeral Sun: it's a thing and we like making things that might be your thing: https://ephemeralsun.bandcamp.com

  15. #1165
    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    Since I rarely make total sense this early in the morning Here's an article that talks about it in more detail.

    https://smgains.com/what-are-the-rea...-or-followers/
    Yeah right. Someone sees your track has 1,000 likes and probably knows, one can buy those likes. What's the value of those likes? A company making their businessmodel from providing those likes, will of cause say it's a great way to get noticed.
    I listen to something if someone here brings it to my attention and on YouTube I just look if something might be interesting. I'm not interested in how many other people have watched something. If something looks interesting, I watch it and if it isn't worth my attention, I stop watching.

  16. #1166
    Quote Originally Posted by battema View Post
    Since I rarely make total sense this early in the morning Here's an article that talks about it in more detail.

    https://smgains.com/what-are-the-rea...-or-followers/
    Yeah right. Someone sees your track has 1,000 likes and probably knows, one can buy those likes. What's the value of those likes? A company making their businessmodel from providing those likes, will of cause say it's a great way to get noticed.
    I listen to something if someone here brings it to my attention and on YouTube I just look if something might be interesting. I'm not interested in how many other people have watched something. If something looks interesting, I watch it and if it isn't worth my attention, I stop watching.

  17. #1167
    Quote Originally Posted by Rarebird View Post
    Yeah right. Someone sees your track has 1,000 likes and probably knows, one can buy those likes. What's the value of those likes? A company making their businessmodel from providing those likes, will of cause say it's a great way to get noticed.
    I listen to something if someone here brings it to my attention and on YouTube I just look if something might be interesting. I'm not interested in how many other people have watched something. If something looks interesting, I watch it and if it isn't worth my attention, I stop watching.
    It's not quite that...it isn't about a listener seeing a track and noticing the number of likes. Rather, it's about trying to "convince" the Soundcloud algorithm to serve up your track more frequently.

    I understand the "logic" of it, but it's basically modern "pay to play" in my book. Pay for fake clicks to try and systematically lure an algorithm into featuring your song, in the hopes that the increased pseudo-exposure will generate an increase in ACTUAL listeners.
    If you're actually reading this then chances are you already have my last album but if NOT and you're curious:
    https://battema.bandcamp.com/

    Also, Ephemeral Sun: it's a thing and we like making things that might be your thing: https://ephemeralsun.bandcamp.com

  18. #1168
    I've also used SLAPS which is platform by DistroKid (which I use to distribute the music). It has a lot of annoying spammers promising you huge promoting boosts etc. but at least I have found a few good artists there. You have to have a certain amount of comments to other artists before you can post your tracks.

    http://https://slaps.com/0man

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    As some/many of you know I collab on BandLab with some great musicians around the world. It's all free and available but in the last year the platform has been making a push for buying memberships and "boosting" your tunes for more exposure on their platform. I believe they also have a distribution service that is starting up, probably something similar to DistroKid. However, their on-line and phone apps are truly buggy and unresponsive (at times). Still, it's a free resource (still for a time I suppose) where you can meet good people, though I have to admit that probably 98% of BandLab is encumbered by wanna be rappers and others singing over stolen music with huge amounts of auto-tune to boot. That doesn't mean that there aren't good rockers and classical and pop and jazz people there. They are just fewer and harder to find.

    As for Bandcamp ... I will always try to find an album and artist there and buy direct from them before looking at other platforms for their music. More $ goes into their pockets that way.
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    In terms of music sharing platforms, I use Newgrounds. Not just a great platform, but a great community as well. You also have very little bots, competent human moderation, cool music competitions being hosted regularly.
    https://czyszy.newgrounds.com/
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  21. #1171
    Decided to give the Soundcloud a try.
    https://on.soundcloud.com/Byysi

    EDIT: How can I make an embed link? Or is it possible from copying the link from the app?

  22. #1172
    Quote Originally Posted by Pekka View Post
    Decided to give the Soundcloud a try.
    https://on.soundcloud.com/Byysi

    EDIT: How can I make an embed link? Or is it possible from copying the link from the app?
    You have to go to the advanced mode and there is a button to make a Soundcloud connection. You copy the trackcode and put Soundcloud tags around it. It's the orange button.

    It works like this:

    https://soundcloud.com/pekka-ranta-7...2/duncan-banks (Soundcloud link)
    [ SC ] [ /SC ] (Soundcloud tags) Should be put around the link

    Nice piece b.t.w. reminds me on Jean Luc Ponty.

  23. #1173
    Thanks again! Nice comment too, appreciated!

  24. #1174
    Just testing (a good excuse to post more music...).

    Last edited by Pekka; 07-25-2024 at 02:37 AM.

  25. #1175
    I'm hopeless...
    By "track code" you mean "copy the link"? I'm using the app and it gives me this if I copy the link:

    Listen to In The Woods by 0'man on #SoundCloud
    https://on.soundcloud.com/HneRy

    (Not putting the SC tags around it on purpose). If I tag that or only the https -part it the embed link looks like above.

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