COVID-19 Coronavirus Information and Discussion

[Buddhabreath]

^^^ I think she does need to calm down. That would be more fatalities than the 1918 flu (~ 50 million) and there is no evidence that I've seen to support any such dire claims. We already see from the China experience that the curve can be flattened if extreme measures are taken. The only question in my mind is whether the rest of the world will be able to take similar measures. IMO.

It could possibly be as bad since like the so-called Spanish Flu (it probably originated in the US) it is highly infectious and has similar mortality: "Comparisons are hard to determine. Since new information about COVID-19 is calculated by different organizations and governments in different ways, much work remains to determine the disease's true case-fatality rate. But one JAMA study published in February estimates the case-fatality rate at 2.3%, nearly identical to Spanish flu estimates."

https://www.medicinenet.com/script/m...iclekey=228841

[Buddhabreath]

Italy announces a slowdown in coronavirus deaths, suggesting measures might be working.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...s-latest-news/


Both figures, while grim, showed a decline from the higher increases only a few days ago, suggesting that Italy’s strict social-distancing measures may be slowing the outbreak.

The president of the national health service, Silvio Brusaferro, told reporters Monday that while it was not yet time to proclaim victory, Italy was finally seeing “the light at the end of the tunnel.”

[battema]

https://www.wavy.com/news/virginia/c...aths-reported/

[Jerjo]

I wonder how much of a spike the porn sites have gotten since so many are at home?

[MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER]

"Singapore so far appears not to have had a single recorded health-care-related transmission of the coronavirus, despite the hundreds of cases that its medical system has had to deal with. That includes one case reported this week of a critically ill pneumonia patient who exposed forty-one health-care workers in the course of four days before being diagnosed with COVID-19. These were high-risk exposures, including exposures during intubation and hands-on intensive care. Eighty-five per cent of the workers used only surgical masks. Yet, owing to proper hand hygiene, none became infected." https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...h-care-workers

odd... here it says there are 509 cases and 2 deaths

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

[ronmac]

One glimmer of hope that this does not become the scope of the Spanish Flu of 1918 is the fact that we are all interconnected in ways that most of the world was not back then. Of course, it also means more misinformation can be spread. But we have each other to sort through the BS. And if someone can stick a sock in you-know-who's mouth, we'll be better off.

The biggest questions I see are whether people will get their heads out of the asses and stay indoors and whether or not we'll be looking at a second wave.

[TheH]

Sorry please don't come up with the Spanish Flu that caused 50 Million dead as bad as the sitituation is
is very far away from that.

[Buddhabreath]

^^^ Indeed, first we have idiots saying it's not as bad as the seasonal flu and now we have idiots saying it will be worse than the Spanish Flu. SMH.

[Trane]

Can we make fun about Covid-19 ? I'm not sure...but we need to take the pressure of a bit.

most of the jokes abounding in french are more about confinement and the rush for pasta and TP, not about the virus itself.

^^ She needs a muzzle.

Indeed, but then again, a lot of people are not taking this seriously enough.... It took me three weeks (until the Italian crisis) to start thinking WTF, and still today I'm not confining enough and probably not doing the safety gestires enough. IMHO, but if it turns out, I'm maybe more careful than the average.

One glimmer of hope that this does not become the scope of the Spanish Flu of 1918 is the fact that we are all interconnected in ways that most of the world was not back then. Of course, it also means more misinformation can be spread. But we have each other to sort through the BS. And if someone can stick a sock in you-know-who's mouth, we'll be better off.

The biggest questions I see are whether people will get their heads out of the asses and stay indoors and whether or not we'll be looking at a second wave.

However, we are a million time more mobile than they were a century ago. The Spanish flu took months to move on. (the crisis lasted some two years, I think)
Here the thing went global in weeks, mainly because of transports and world economy.

[Poisoned Youth]

Indeed, but then again, a lot of people are not taking this seriously enough.... It took me three weeks (until the Italian crisis) to start thinking WTF, and still today I'm not confining enough and probably not doing the safety gestires enough. IMHO, but if it turns out, I'm maybe more careful than the average.

I went off on my employers today a bit when they told staff (those who weren't laid off) that coming to the office was *optional*. I had to go in to get a few things squared away, but told everyone who was there to take their workstation and go home. No one should be at the office except in critical situations. Period. Our leadership has been slow to be decisive.

However, we are a million time more mobile than they were a century ago. The Spanish flu took months to move on. (the crisis lasted some two years, I think)
Here the thing went global in weeks, mainly because of transports and world economy.

You know, this is a great point.

[Dave the Brave]

Today the Ontario Govt here in Canada announced all non-essential businesses are to shut down.

I'm in the publishing business as a designer so can easily work from home, although I'm already getting cabin fever.

Problem is if our print suppliers have to shut down none of our periodicals can get printed or delivered to subscribers.

As it is we are running at a very low profit margin and some of the work I do is for non-profits which depend on donations to survive.

I was notified by our bank and some of my creditors that payments (mortgage, loan payments etc) can be deferred for up to six months. Which is all well and good but still need to put food on the table.

Hopefully utility companies will do the same.

Well at least we don't live in the third world or the most effected areas like Italy.

I guess there is always something to be grateful for.

Keep healthy and safe my prog friends.

DtB

[TCC]

Can we make fun about Covid-19 ? I'm not sure...but we need to take the pressure of a bit.

Meanwhile in Costa Rica.jpg

A different approach:



Regards!.
Keep safe!.

[Jerjo]

Today the Ontario Govt here in Canada announced all non-essential businesses are to shut down.

I'm in the publishing business as a designer so can easily work from home, although I'm already getting cabin fever.

Problem is if our print suppliers have to shut down none of our periodicals can get printed or delivered to subscribers.

As it is we are running at a very low profit margin and some of the work I do is for non-profits which depend on donations to survive.

I was notified by our bank and some of my creditors that payments (mortgage, loan payments etc) can be deferred for up to six months. Which is all well and good but still need to put food on the table.

Hopefully utility companies will do the same.

Well at least we don't live in the third world or the most effected areas like Italy.

I guess there is always something to be grateful for.

Keep healthy and safe my prog friends.

DtB

Is the gov't there proposing any sort of bailout for the unemployed?

[Zeuhlmate]

Perhaps positive news

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...ts-died-italy/

[ronmac]

A friend just shared this message he got from the friend of a coworker.

Do you Know the Corona virus is not a fuckin virus it’s 5G that’s actually killing people and not a “virus” they are trying to get u scared of a fake ass virus when it the 5G towers being built around the world. China was the first to have over 100,000 5G towers, and people in Wuhan were the first to get affected by it. This 5G shit was planned years ago to depopulate us and keep as at a low vibrational state. Bill gates is the one who created this along with the weird entities who control this world. He also is creating a vaccine for this so called corona virus that they are going to try to enforce on everyone. These Vaccines are actually chips that they are trying to implant in billions of people across the world. They can literally monitor all ya actions, movements, whereabouts, and thoughts through these lil micro chips. Not only that they can end ya life through them micro chips with the push of a button. They know in order to have millions of people take these vaccines they first need to create a fake virus. Smh it grinds my fuckin gears that you humans are brainwashed enough to believe wtf the news and media puts out there. WAKE TF UP and start researching the truths behind these weird agendas they keep creating. Y’all really out there with masks and shit on WHEN IT AINT NO DAMN VIRUSSSSSS. These Chinese doctors and people you see on TV that’s so called affected by the virus ARE ALL ACTORS, this shit is scripted out LITERALLY. It’s 5G towers that’s killing people and no mask in the world can prevent them levels of radiation from frying your brain. If we don’t wake tf up NOW this shit finna really kill us smh but of course y’all gonna think I’m crazy for saying this too right ??? Smh Fuckin Robots is what y’all are, legit programmed robots!!

This is what we're up against, folks.

[Dave the Brave]

Is the gov't there proposing any sort of bailout for the unemployed?

Don't know at this point.

I would have to be officially laid off to apply for what we in Canada call Employment Insurance, not Unemployment Insurance.

Even if that were to happen I would imagine that the online application web site will bog down at some point from the sheer numbers applying.

Fingers crossed as I received my latest paycheck Friday and we are stocked up with enough food for maybe a month except for milk and bread and things like that.

We are good for toilet paper at least for a while. : > )

DtB

[Trane]

I went off on my employers today a bit when they told staff (those who weren't laid off) that coming to the office was *optional*. I had to go in to get a few things squared away, but told everyone who was there to take their workstation and go home. No one should be at the office except in critical situations. Period. Our leadership has been slow to be decisive.



You know, this is a great point.

Last week, I went back twice to the institute to get some work to do at home (and check out if my lab experiments are doing ok) and was denied a third time. Not that I'm proud of it, but the workplace empty of all the colleagues becomes a safe place for those who stay.

This week the place is totally off-limits, I'm teleworking from home (as difficult that can be for someone not doing modelling or publishing scientific papers) and on my own laptop (most of the scientists have corporate laptops), which makes it difficult to enter our networks. I won't be far from fucking the dog by the end of the week, coz there is only so much I can do from home.
I trust they (the bosses) will understand most of us won't have much productivity - especially those confined with the kids at home.

To top that, out of the 40K people working four our organizations, thety had +/- 3 or 4 000 (max) teleworking par day. By sending everyone home in Brussels, Strasbourg, Luxembourg and Ispra (we're linked to that site), there is 10 times that much trying to get in, and the whole thing jammed all last week (only managed to get to my e-mails on friday for a 1/2h).
Today was certainly an improvement.... Looks like the IT guys worked all w-e to accomodate the rush/crush. Hopefully, the whole thing is hacker-proof.

A friend just shared this message he got from the friend of a coworker.



This is what we're up against, folks.

yeah, some french arsehole (Gendrok) is busy spreading that same kind of shit all over his YT chain... he even tops it off with nanotechnologies in the future vaccine for crowd control nuts.gif

[Zeuhlmate]

A friend just shared this message he got from the friend of a coworker.



This is what we're up against, folks.

Darwin Awards comes to mind.

[Trane]

Sorry, they're inFrench, but most of them cracked me up

They're about being confined, France forcing a paper justification for exit the home

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[Mister Triscuits]

This is what we're up against, folks.

My local newspaper today saw fit to print a letter from one Michael DeMoss of Menlo Park (SF Bay Area, one of the COVID hot spots) who provides advice on "how to stop the coronavirus panic" including:

2) Compare it to deaths from other causes ... Have you stopped driving because of the number of car-related deaths?

3) Stress this: if you are healthy, get out and live as you did last month. If you're vulnerable, see a doctor for care.

4) If you missed out on the stock market last year, now is your chance to invest.

5) We are not sheep, we are Americans, we are the envy of the world. Act like it!

6) Turn off the negative news and get on with your life. Everything is fine. This too shall pass. Have faith.

Arrrgggh.

[MYSTERIOUS TRAVELLER]

A friend just shared this message he got from the friend of a coworker.



This is what we're up against, folks.

conspiracy theorists are insane

[Trane]

About being bored at home after raiding the supermarkets and hoarding pasta and TP

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[Zeuhlmate]

This will surely turn up in an English version one of these days, but an Icelandic research company (DeCode Genetics) have found more than 40 different mutations of covid-19 on Iceland alone by scanning 9.768 persons.

Danish:
https://www.information.dk/indland/2...ene-paa-island

[Buddhabreath]

This will surely turn up in an English version one of these days, but an Icelandic research company (DeCode Genetics) have found more than 40 different mutations of covid-19 on Iceland alone by scanning 9.768 persons.

Danish:
https://www.information.dk/indland/2...ene-paa-island

That apparently is expected with an RNA virus. Single mutations are likely to have zero impact on transmission or morbidity.

“The word mutation "naturally conjures fears of unexpected and freakish changes," he wrote. "In reality, mutations are a natural part of the virus life cycle and rarely impact outbreaks dramatically." RNA viruses, or those that have RNA as their main genetic material instead of DNA, including SARS-CoV-2, mutate constantly and do not have the mechanisms to fix these "mistakes," as human cells do, for example.”

https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-mutations.html

[Twelfth Earl of Mar]

I wonder how much of a spike the porn sites have gotten since so many are at home?

Maybe the better question is - will there be a baby boom in about 9 months? And how many babies will be named Corona and Covidia? :-)