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    African Prog/Psych/Rock

    I’m a fan of the East African guitar sound, know some Nigerian bands from back in the day like Blo whose eponymous album is excellent (available from Wayside via the link for $4 btw - no brainer!) but my knowledge in this area is very limited. I know of the Zambian band Amanaz, but wasn’t aware of the 70s Zambia story - the video below was recently posted on YouTube and helps to illuminate that scene.

    Do you have any favorite or recommended African rock bands from the 70s that might be of interest to PE members?



    This thread might die on the vine, but I couldn’t find a similar thread after searching so I thought it was worth a shot. Thanks!

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    This is a pretty decent overview for Zambian rock:
    https://daily.redbullmusicacademy.co...uction-feature

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rarebird View Post
    Osibisa?
    Not properly but I guess it's arguable - formed in London with a membership made up of Africans and West Indians, but four out of seven members were African.

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    Fela Kuti?
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    Yes, the area is very limited. You won't find a lot, since very few African bands ventured in the prog-rock genre. You should check Zzebra, not really African (British) but including past members of Osibisa. The proggiest I know, though closer to jazz-rock/fusion.

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    Yes, the area is very limited. You won't find a lot, since very few African bands ventured in the prog-rock genre. You should check Zzebra, not really African (British) but including past members of Osibisa. The proggiest I know, though closer to jazz-rock/fusion.
    I only have Panic, but it’s supposed to be their best anyway. British-based, but I’d say they get off on a technicality, since this seems to be Loughty Amao’s baby. Surprisingly, the instrumental version of “You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feeling” is a highlight; I seriously was not expecting it to be that good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddhabreath View Post
    I’m a fan of the East African guitar sound, know some Nigerian bands from back in the day like Blo whose eponymous album is excellent (available from Wayside via the link for $4 btw - no brainer!) but my knowledge in this area is very limited. I know of the Zambian band Amanaz, but wasn’t aware of the 70s Zambia story - the video below was recently posted on YouTube and helps to illuminate that scene.

    Do you have any favorite or recommended African rock bands from the 70s that might be of interest to PE members?

    This thread might die on the vine, but I couldn’t find a similar thread after searching so I thought it was worth a shot. Thanks!
    I had made a bunch of proggy suggestion on a thread but I can't remember which one, because it was a devuiation of another subject (Santana or Osibisa, maybe)
    Interesting Rockumentary, BTW, thx!



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    Yes, the area is very limited. You won't find a lot, since very few African bands ventured in the prog-rock genre. You should check Zzebra, not really African (British) but including past members of Osibisa. The proggiest I know, though closer to jazz-rock/fusion.
    Nigeria is the place you really want to take a look at, because that's where the heart of Afrobeat and the first recording studios on the continent happened, thanks to Ginger Baker.

    Ofege were hardly the only ones around.



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    Nigeria again: SJOB Movement





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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    Nigeria is the place you really want to take a look at, because that's where the heart of Afrobeat and the first recording studios on the continent happened, thanks to Ginger Baker.
    I know Ginger Baker was old before his time, but I think recording studios in Africa were established way before 1971 (and I am sure Afrobeat predated him too). I expect studios were in place in both Nigeria and South Africa (at least) at about the same time (early 20th century) as they would have arrived at the height of colonial expansion in Africa. Just off the top of my head, Solomon Linda’s ‘Mbube’, a classic South African track that Pete Seeger drew from for ‘Wimoweh’ (and which Disney then used in The Lion King), was recorded at Gallo Records in Johannesburg in 1939. But I confess, this entry isn’t about recording studios or the merits of Ginger Baker; it just a thinly disguised excuse for me to post the said Solomon Linda’s amazing ‘Mbube’ (and I look forward to following up those Nigerian links).

    The story of Mbube is told in this Rolling Stone article: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...onight-108274/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munster View Post
    I know Ginger Baker was old before his time, but I think recording studios in Africa were established way before 1971 (and I am sure Afrobeat predated him too). I expect studios were in place in both Nigeria and South Africa (at least) at about the same time (early 20th century) as they would have arrived at the height of colonial expansion in Africa.
    Let's be careful not to confuse radio studios (able to record as well) and real music-recording studios.

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    Nigeria is the place you really want to take a look at, because that's where the heart of Afrobeat and the first recording studios on the continent happened, thanks to Ginger Baker.
    in the late 80's, and TBH, I never went fact-checking to verify it. Though I can't remember where I read it, it seemed cash-upfront enough to be truthful and reliable. So while my memory of the article is over 30 yo, you're right that Afrobeat predates Ginger's arrival on the continent.

    RYM's definition of Afrobeat:
    Afrobeat is a genre created by Nigerian multi-instrumentalist and singer Fela Kuti in the late 1960s. It is a distinctly neotraditional style that merges the traditional Yoruba percussion and call-and-response structure with the general principles of Highlife (Fela played in Bobby Benson's and Dr. Victor Olaiya's bands in the 1950s), Jazz (a genre that Fela explored during the 1960s in London and back in Lagos) and Funk (influenced by local Nigerian star Geraldo Pino, an imitator of James Brown). This combination proved very successful, earning Fela critical acclaim and spawning a whole movement of afrobeat bands that still continues today.

    Afrobeat songs were originally sung by Fela in either pidgin English or Yoruba; he combined love songs ("Lover") with songs based on traditional Yoruba tales ("Alujon jon ki jon"), but by the mid-1970s political themes became the center of Fela's lyrical output, with albums such as Expensive Shit, Zombie and Coffin for Head of State criticizing the police, the military and the government. This consolidated his audience, as his popularity and the popularity of afrobeat grew overseas. However, local sales of afrobeat have always been lower than those of Fuji and Jùjú, genres that were in fact influenced by afrobeat to a great extent.

    The standard afrobeat ensemble was established by Fela's band, The Africa '70, featuring drums, congas, percussion sticks, sekere, electric bass, electric guitar and a horn section. Fela's drummer, Tony Allen, left the band in 1979 to pursue a successful career that would see him expand the afrobeat sound. In the 1980s, Fela's band became The Egypt '80, being larger than his previous ensemble and playing longer, more complex pieces. Until his death in 1997, no other musician (except his oldest son, Femi Kuti) competed against Fela's success in afrobeat. Ever since, the number of bands, especially in North America, has increased notably, with groups such as Antibalas and The Souljazz Orchestra keeping Fela's legacy alive. Fela's youngest son, Seun Kuti spearheads the new Egypt '80.
    ... but I'm not sure when Fela and Ginger crossed paths.
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    Witch have a box set of all their recordings. It’s worth picking up.

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    There's Demon Fuzz - British-based, and most or all of them were black guys. Jazzy funk, and sort of prog-adjacent. However, I don't know whether they were African or from the islands.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Baribrotzer View Post
    There's Demon Fuzz - British-based, and most or all of them were black guys. Jazzy funk, and sort of prog-adjacent. However, I don't know whether they were African or from the islands.

    From the islands - a band formed in London by West Indian immigrants, one of whom (Paddy Corea) got the idea for the band whilst visiting Morocco where he was exposed to non-Western music. They aren't really an African group much more than Monty Python are Canadian because they did the Lumberjack Song.

    OK, to be fair, I think there was one African in the group (out of seven).
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    Quote Originally Posted by spellbound View Post
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    African Head Charge aren’t African. Started by Bonjo Iyabinghi Noah (Jamaican) and Adrian Sherwood (British).
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    African Head Charge aren’t African. Started by Bonjo Iyabinghi Noah (Jamaican) and Adrian Sherwood (British).
    Although not fitting the criteria of the OP, this first house band for On-U were nevertheless superb.

    As were the second house band, Tack>>head!

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    Quote Originally Posted by per anporth View Post
    Although not fitting the criteria of the OP, this first house band for On-U were nevertheless superb.

    As were the second house band, Tack>>head!
    Oh, I agree: I got into AHC with the Songs of Praises album. I'm a bit sad that I never saw any of the On-U Sound bands play live.

    Relatedly, though not On-U Sound, I also liked The Wolf That House Built by Little Axe. Though he lost me with the follow-up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mascodagama View Post
    Oh, I agree: I got into AHC with the Songs of Praises album. I'm a bit sad that I never saw any of the On-U Sound bands play live.

    Relatedly, though not On-U Sound, I also liked The Wolf That House Built by Little Axe. Though he lost me with the follow-up.
    I’m a big fan of the On-U-Sound label and their many projects. Adrian Sherwood is a mad keen West Ham Utd fan and did a number of tracks in homage to some of our greats. I love Tackhead, they did some outstanding work.

    I stuck with Little Axe for a few albums past The Wolf, he’s a great blues player too and of course a cornerstone of On-U.

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    Freedom’s Children were an excellent prog band, coming out of South Africa. The album Astra was world-class and their first album, Battle Hymn of the Broken-Hearted Hordes, was pretty interesting too. Their third and last was good but patchy.
    Africa wasn’t well served by prog bands, although there were quite a few ‘psychedelic’ bands. The main Western influences for bands in north and west Africa were Santana, The Beatles and James Brown. There was more diversity in South Africa/Rhodesia/Zambia, where records of all the big English prog bands could be bought, but many of the local efforts to play progressive music were leaden and overly ambitious. Freedom’s Children were the exception.
    The German label Love, Peace and Poetry series released a CD – called African Psychedelic Music – but in essence it was a compilation of southern-African prog/rock/blues bands.
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    Freedom’s Children were an excellent prog band, coming out of South Africa. The album Astra was world-class....
    I had to second this statement and recommendation. “Astra” is indeed an upper echelon prog psych album on every level. I still recall hearing it for the first time many years ago with a friend after we had gone to a record show and bought a bunch of reissues. The dealer recommended it and it wasn’t cheap but I knew the guy and trusted his taste. Lead off intro type track “Aileen” seemed promising sonically but when “The Homecoming” kicked in my friend and I just looked at each other like “Whoa!”.
    There is a great interview with the (sadly recently deceased) bassist and chief songwriter Ramsay Mackay here:


    https://www.psychedelicbabymag.com/2...th-ramsay.html

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    This is another good one from South Africa - Snakeshed's Classic Epics - although not outright prog, more psych/rock
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    I now realise that my concept of psychedelic (conscience-altering) music has been shaped almost entirely by the sound of Rick Wright’s Ummagumma-era swirling and ambient organ that I listened to in my formative years. With this in mind I offer (under the banner of African psych) this track from Ethiopian Mahmoud Ahmed, called Tezeta. For me it is the most psychedelic sound to come out of Africa that I have heard. I haven’t a clue what he is singing about but ‘tezeta’ roughly translates as ‘the blues’. And the sax is amazing.
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