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    New version of From Genesis to Revelation planned

    Apparently this is something Anthony Phillips has been working on (he also has a new solo album coming out) but PG, Mike and Tony are also evidently involved.

    https://www.genesis-news.com/news-An...foot-n959.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Man View Post
    Apparently this is something Anthony Phillips has been working on (he also has a new solo album coming out) but PG, Mike and Tony are also evidently involved.

    https://www.genesis-news.com/news-An...foot-n959.html
    His new solo album has been out for about a month, and is on a second pressing since it apparently sold better than they expected.

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    Peter will want to re-record the vocals and Tony will make sure Steve Hackett is inaudible. And it will all be Phil Collin's fault.

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    Tony will make sure Steve Hackett is inaudible
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halmyre View Post
    Peter will want to re-record the vocals and Tony will make sure Steve Hackett is inaudible. And it will all be Phil Collin's fault.
    And there will be no tour because of Anthony Phillips' stage fright.
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    How many versions of that album are there allready? I get the impression it's the most re-released Genesis-album there is, with different covers and sometimes with a bonus-disk and in the first archives boxset there is a whole disk with alternative versions, demos and other stuff

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    I'm guessing this new version will be to return FGtR to the original vision the band members had for that album prior to Jonathan King's unfortunate arrangement choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koreabruce View Post
    I'm guessing this new version will be to return FGtR to the original vision the band members had for that album prior to Jonathan King's unfortunate arrangement choices.
    I think a lot of those versions are in the first archives set.

    I would rather have both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halmyre View Post
    Peter will want to re-record the vocals and Tony will make sure Steve Hackett is inaudible. And it will all be Phil Collin's fault.

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    I just wish they'd finally give the mono mix an official CD release. Unfortunately, it seems unlikely at this point.
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    I find that I am among relatively few Genesis fans who actively likes their first album. It certainly isn't "prog" (we really need to resurrect the term flonkus), but it is some pretty progressive pop music for the day. Those kids had something going for them.

    I would very much like it if they were to use the available technology strip off the strings and let us hear what the band played. But I don't imagine that's likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturgeon's Lawyer View Post
    I would very much like it if they were to use the available technology strip off the strings and let us hear what the band played. But I don't imagine that's likely.
    This seems to me the only possible reason for reissuing this yet again, surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovecraft View Post
    This seems to me the only possible reason for reissuing this yet again, surely?
    I agree. Ant in particular was reportedly very angry when he heard what Jonathan King had done with those strings.

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    I love this album so I'll be very curious to hear what's done with it.
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    I have the album on vinyl, but would still like to have it on CD. Perhaps a double, so you can choose between listening to the album with, or without strings. so an original version and a naked version.

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    My default position is to always buy these things ...... because I want them to continue to release stuff (maybe not the most compelling piece of logic LOL)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturgeon's Lawyer View Post
    I would very much like it if they were to use the available technology strip off the strings and let us hear what the band played. But I don't imagine that's likely.
    Well, because of how the stereo is mixed, you can already do that with the balance control, Audacity or whatever. ISTR it's the left channel with the band, there's no bleed-through at all. You'll get one speaker of just the band with no orchestral overdubs. (The band-only songs are mixed differently.) 'In The Wilderness' appeared sans strings on the Genesis Archive set and I suspect this is all they did to achieve that.

    TBH the strings have never bothered me. If anything, I think they boosted what were sometimes slight songs. But I also enjoy a fair bit of the album.

    There was a download-only project called 50 Years Ago which had some new mixes, outtakes etc. I never heard it myself, but it had a stereo mix of 'One Eyed Hound' which was a cruddy sounding mix originally.

    There's also the mono mix which has never been on CD, although it's not very different. The stereo might actually be better- some of the segues are cruder in the mono.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rarebird View Post
    How many versions of that album are there allready? I get the impression it's the most re-released Genesis-album there is, with different covers and sometimes with a bonus-disk and in the first archives boxset there is a whole disk with alternative versions, demos and other stuff
    I wrote an article about this - while it's not the most re-issued album in history, it may be the one that's been reissued with the most different titles and album covers - several of which I feel were meant to trick the buyer into thinking this was something "new"

    https://critterjams.wordpress.com/20...velation-1969/
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAMOOL View Post
    I wrote an article about this - while it's not the most re-issued album in history, it may be the one that's been reissued with the most different titles and album covers - several of which I feel were meant to trick the buyer into thinking this was something "new"

    https://critterjams.wordpress.com/20...velation-1969/
    That's a lot of different versions. I have the Nova one.

    I'm sure it beats Pekka Pohjola - Keesojen Letho, which is also released with different titles, different covers and with the names of some guests in front of that of Pekka Pohjola.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ88 View Post

    There's also the mono mix which has never been on CD, although it's not very different. The stereo might actually be better- some of the segues are cruder in the mono.
    True but I think the mono mix blends the band and the strings much better, as a result it doesn't sound like both are permanently fighting for prominence, with Peter's voice hanging in the middle. Also, it's a much better listening experience on headphones.
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    Does this mean they still have the multitrack tapes for FGTR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave (in MA) View Post
    Does this mean they still have the multitrack tapes for FGTR?
    Ant's interview is not clear on this but Jamool's blog at the very bottom shows a recent release that claims "recently discovered multitracks". Really fun blog post BTW.

    40 years ago I had a home taped version of FGTR. I thought it was a decent pop album. I would buy a new remixed release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koreabruce View Post
    I'm guessing this new version will be to return FGtR to the original vision the band members had for that album prior to Jonathan King's unfortunate arrangement choices.
    I'd be quite interested if that were the case. A different mix with no strings might really transform the sound of the album. In its current form I find it quite an uninspiring listen apart from a few songs.

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    The original without the strings would almost certainly sound a lot like most of the material on the 4th CD of the Archive 67-75 box.

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