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    One of the worst sounding albums of all time was Metallica's And Justice for All. In which they made Jason's bass inaudible in the mix. Taking out on Jason their pain and anger over Cliff's death.
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    Another one who I was very influenced by back in the day was Gary Thain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pekka View Post
    I was about to mention John Giblin when I saw this thread and especially those Duncan Browne albums. I had known his work with Brand X and it's good but he was a bit overshadowed by Percy Jones on them or at least I thought he was. But his playing with Phillips' on those Browne's albums and Metro too not only with the fretless Wal but also with a fretted P-Bass is just sublime. Great music on them too.

    Speaking of Simple Minds, I've been lately listening a lot of their early stuff and Derek Forbes' playing and basslines are just fabulous.
    Same here. I have most of their early LP's, but apart from New Gold Dream hadn't listened to them for a long time. This changed when I read the book Themes For Great Cities by Graeme Thomson, after which I even bought a nice boxset with the first three albums on CD.

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    First off my mind is Marco Cerletti of Circus (the swiss band).
    Don't really understand why he didn't make it bigger (and longer)



    Supertramp's Dougie Thompson added sooooo much to the band's lower register. I'm not sure I would've caught on without him, with the double falsetto voices attack of Hodgson & Helliwell.


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    Mel Shacher...of Grand Funk. Those early power trio GFR albums had some serious bottom end.
    in studio yes, but I really dislike the Live album: it's just too much.

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    Let's also mention: Bootsy Collins. Noel Redding. Carole Kaye. Billy Cox. Leland Sklar. Willy Dixon. Gail Ann Dorsey. Dave Pegg. Esperanza Spaulding. Louis Johnson. Aston Barrett. John Wetton. Verdine White. James Jamerson (of the Funk Brothers). Joseph Makwela. Donald "Duck Dunn. John McVie. Les Claypool. Tina Weymouth. Cliff Burton. Geezer Butler. John Glascock. Bundy Cenac.
    A few names I need to check out in that list
    But I would definitely add Jack Casady, Danny Thompson (including what he's done with John Martyn) and whoever bassed for Tim Buckley (not just John Balkin, TB's music seemed to inspire bassists >> including DT who spot-gigged for him in Europe)

    Quote Originally Posted by dgtlman View Post
    Another one who I was very influenced by back in the day was Gary Thain.
    never understood the praise, but RIP anyway.

    Jaco generally overdid everything he did (thus annoyed me), but he was a fantastic addition to Joni's late-70's albums.
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    In the late 70's and 80's I listened a lot to jazzrock-masters Jeff Berlin and Gary Willis on the albums by (Bill) Bruford and Tribal Tech. Berlin often has a melodic way of doing the rhythms, while Willis' bass sounds at times as if the speaker lies in a bathtub full of water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by interbellum View Post
    In the late 70's and 80's I listened a lot to jazzrock-masters Jeff Berlin and Gary Willis on the albums by (Bill) Bruford and Tribal Tech. Berlin often has a melodic way of doing the rhythms, while Willis' bass sounds at times as if the speaker lies in a bathtub full of water.
    Berlin is fabulous. So talented. He was thrilling to watch when I saw Bill Bruford three times.

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    Trane wrote: "First off my mind is Marco Cerletti of Circus (the swiss band).
    Don't really understand why he didn't make it bigger (and longer)"

    Hey Trane, l will avoid the obvious "make it bigger and longer" joke to say that l am a +1 with you on Cerletti, and to let you know he released an excellent solo album some time back called "Random And Providence." I have it on CD and also ran across it on Spotify if you would like to check it out there. Assuming you aren't already aware of its existence...
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    Love the bass in this song

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twZo...BtYSBtYQ%3D%3D


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    Quote Originally Posted by veteranof1000psychicwars View Post
    l am a +1 with you on Cerletti, and to let you know he released an excellent solo album some time back called "Random And Providence." I have it on CD and also ran across it on Spotify if you would like to check it out there. Assuming you aren't already aware of its existence...
    I checked it out last night, with a little obstination, you'll find roughly 40% of it on YT (I don't do Spotify)

    It's OK, but has a late 80's jazz feel to it, bandexactly with the ECM canon. I might order it, as it's quite cheap on discogs. Clearly he was more into playing the Chapman stick, than the bass.
    But one album seems little for his talent. I guess he moved on to something else since.

    It now looks like only KB Amman and windplayer Grieder didn't do much in terms of recorded music to his own name (the latter played on the others' solo albums, though) after Blue Motion.

    Rolie Frei has quite a recent career (interesting BC pages) and drummer Hauser has been has been constantly busy (full career), if I judge by Discogs.

    Currently checking out Grieder's Rondeau project called Early Planes and Singing Memories.
    EDIT: found nothing on YT
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    I second Jack Casady, whom I have loved for something like 55 years or so.

    I'm not lazy. I just work so fast I'm always done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trane View Post
    I checked it out last night, with a little obstination, you'll find roughly 40% of it on YT (I don't do Spotify)

    It's OK, but has a late 80's jazz feel to it, bandexactly with the ECM canon. I might order it, as it's quite cheap on discogs. Clearly he was more into playing the Chapman stick, than the bass.
    But one album seems little for his talent. I guess he moved on to something else since.

    It now looks like only KB Amman and windplayer Grieder didn't do much in terms of recorded music to his own name (the latter played on the others' solo albums, though) after Blue Motion.

    Rolie Frei has quite a recent career (interesting BC pages) and drummer Hauser has been has been constantly busy (full career), if I judge by Discogs.

    Currently checking out Grieder's Rondeau project called Early Planes and Singing Memories.
    EDIT: found nothing on YT
    Yeah, ECM 80s jazz is a good pocket to place Cerletti's album in but l quite enjoy it when l am in the mood for 'that sort of thing'. I only have one of Hauser's solo albums (Solodrumming) which is basically that-not actual 'songs' or any sort of conventional compositional structure.
    The first two Frei albums, Stranger In My House and Floating Awake, are excellent. They don't sound like Circus of course, but anyone who loves his gorgeous voice will love these (and FA features some great bass work, incidentally). His two later albums seem to be aimed at a more commercial audience, l listened to both of them once.
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    I also love Phillipe Bussonnet, and miss him in Magma.



    And lately Eugene Abdiukhanov has been blowing my mind. Look here at around 1:47 in/

    I'm not lazy. I just work so fast I'm always done.

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    Oh. Can't believe I forgot to mention Misa from Band-Maid. Just incredible chops, and musical as all hell.
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    Generally speaking, I am not a fan of superhuman fast snapping and popping, but nonetheless I do find some players pretty astonishing.

    Federico Malaman and Mohini Dey:



    Charles Berthoud- seems a really nice with gigantic chops:



    i only recent found Vincen Garcia:

    I'm not lazy. I just work so fast I'm always done.

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    Here is a laughably inept top 100 bassists, which does not include Jack Casady:

    https://consequence.net/2024/04/100-...of-all-time/4/
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    Here is a laughably inept top 100 bassists, which does not include Jack Casady:

    https://consequence.net/2024/04/100-...of-all-time/4/
    No Pekka Pohjola and no Helmut Hatler? Such a shame.

    I really like the bass in Fischer Z The worker.

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    Mike Watt, y'all. Bass, econo.

    I could sit here and list my faves. I'm a bass player, after all. So many great players. I'll just give a shout out to Alain Caron, perhaps my fave player at the moment, though Dave Carpenter, who played with Holdsworth amongst others, was an amazing and unique voice on the instrument. RIP Allan, and RIP Dave C.
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    Perhaps the most underrated bassist is Flee of Red Hot Chili Peppers. I would rate him among the best of the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progmatist View Post
    Perhaps the most underrated bassist is Flee of Red Hot Chili Peppers. I would rate him among the best of the best.
    Well.....I would disagree, and I think Flea himself would disagree. And frankly, Flea is rated very highly as a Bassist by the general public, because he's so Out Front.
    Don't get me wrong, I think Flea has his own thing and I respect what he's doing. I also know he's a positive force, and also a jazz lover who plays trumpet and hung with Chet Baker in his younger days.

    He did bring the instrument to the forefront during that whole Punk/Funk revolution in the 80's, when Fishbone, RHCP, Jane's, Thelonious Monster, Firehose......were hitting hard.
    I've watched him practicing Jaco's Teen Town in hotel rooms, and the dude can play, for sure. But instrumentally, he's not really doing anything new.
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    I have to post this. EllenPlaysBass is Ellen Alaverdyan, who is all of 12 years old now and plays here the lines from a number of progressive metal bands- flawlessly. She is a hoot and a little wonder, who took up a challenge from Billy Sheehan. Watch in wonder; the future for bass looks good:

    I'm not lazy. I just work so fast I'm always done.

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    "And this is the chorus.....or perhaps it's a bridge...."

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    Last edited by wideopenears; 2 Weeks Ago at 04:46 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progmatist View Post
    Perhaps the most underrated bassist is Flee of Red Hot Chili Peppers. I would rate him among the best of the best.
    "Flea's underrated" is practically an oxymoron!

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    Brutal bass !


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sputnik View Post
    The first name that pops into my mind is Ares Tavolazzi, the ridiculously, insanely good bass player for Area. My favorite song of his is "L'Elaphante Bianco," where his fretless work just kills. But there are so many great moments for him. He brings a jazz sensibility, equally adept on fretted, fretless, and standup bass, but he also rocks out when necessary and integrates the bass into Area's unique musical brew in a seamless way. A truly unsung bass hero, who is technically far better than many names that get a ton more attention.

    I may come up with more players later, but Ares is at the top of my personal list of players who don't get enough love.

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