Univers Zero

[Quantum Cat]

I have some very low numbers in my bandcamp collection but the lowest appears to be Interference Sardines - Zucchini where me and a guy in Belgium are the only owners.

That is a REAL shame. I have the 2001 release on Dame, and I think it's an excellent album: imaginative arrangements, great musicianship including two violinists. Well, that's the way of the world alright... :-(


<edit> now that I see the responses, perhaps I spoke too soon.

[smcfee]

That is a REAL shame. I have the 2001 release on Dame, and I think it's an excellent album: imaginative arrangements, great musicianship including two violinists. Well, that's the way of the world alright... :-(


<edit> now that I see the responses, perhaps I spoke too soon.

Yeah, those IS releases were available on CD for a long time before Bandcamp was around, and are still readily findable used on Discogs if not new. So we're talking about the percentage of people who want to buy a 21 year old release with no current marketing and no bonus material in a digital format. One of the great things about Bandcamp is that it allows a group to keep a release like this available to those interested when the economics of a repress are not reasonable.

[Quantum Cat]

^^^ Yes, great point and I'm happy for Bandcamp because of it!

[remoraes]

Yeah, those IS releases were available on CD for a long time before Bandcamp was around, and are still readily findable used on Discogs if not new. So we're talking about the percentage of people who want to buy a 21 year old release with no current marketing and no bonus material in a digital format. One of the great things about Bandcamp is that it allows a group to keep a release like this available to those interested when the economics of a repress are not reasonable.

I am not sure if this is THE RIGHT spot to discuss this, however, let's go....

I exchange Lps/CDs with Wayside and many other people since.... well a long ago. Today only 2 or 3 places.Like several people here. The market changed due: internet (digital format), new generations interest (they like the digital format that is the fashion for them) and, mainly the absurd cost of postage around the World today (everywhere the postage is MUCH higher now).

So, 20 years ago, if a new interesting CD was out in Brazil, I could get 50 to 100 to export to Wayside, Europe and Japan. Nowadays.... I can get 5 to 10.

Almost no one wants to pay a lot of money with postage and a unknown CD to discover it is just ok

With bandcamp and other streaming platforms you can check them before-hand (this is useful) and decide if you want or not, or just buy the digital and save with the outrageous postage / custom / time etc etc etc

If this is the wrong place, I can erase the postage....

[rcarlberg]

Nope, I think you're right on the money, Renato. The old way of distribution is dead dead dead because the new way is so much more convenient and inexpensive. No chance it'll ever go back.

Bandcamp has the additional benefit -- from the artist's point of view -- of allowing the artist total control over the product, from editing to mastering to packaging. These days more and more musicians are recording the music themselves (the technology to do so has also come way down) so they're by-and-large more comfortable doing mastering and mixing too. It's much more of a situation which existed prior to the 20th Century, when there was no "music industry" middleman, just musicians and the patrons who supported them.

[Quantum Cat]

Also you have streaming services like Spotify which are destroying any hopes of revived media sales and paying the artists diddly squat IMO.

[remoraes]

Interview with Guy Segers

I saw it on Facebook, but it was Michael Bohn that reminded me about it, so I decided to post it here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do6WijlnNnU

[rcarlberg]

It's much more of a situation which existed prior to the 20th Century, when there was no "music industry" middleman, just musicians and the patrons who supported them.

With the additional benefit of a potential global market.

[remoraes]

hello all........ VERY FRESH NEWS.....
Hello all
Some news:
New CD /Lp will be released by SUB ROSA will this year.
Daniel Denis/Univers Zero
The recordings are about to be finished.
There are 11 tracks. Nicolas Dechêne plays on a few tracks as well as my son Nico (vocals, bass guitar and percussion). Kurt Budé plays on two tracks.
I haven't chosen the title of the album yet.
On the other hand, a vinyl limited to 74 copies is now available collector's version signed and numbered with a cover for the occasion. This is 1313, a French Atem pressing from 1982.
The 74 copies of 1313 will be sold for 40 euros + the cost of sending.
The contact to get it is: facebook: CANTAL SCHMITZ
https://www.facebook.com/cantal.schmitz
Thank you and Best regards
Daniel Denis

new 1313-2023.jpg

[Zeuhlmate]

Good news !

[neuroticdog]

WOW!! Amazingly awesome news!

best
Michael

[Hobo Chang Ba]

Oh nice!

I'll be happy with either a DD or UZ album. But if it is a DD album, I hope this has reignited his spark for UZ.

[NogbadTheBad]

I'm cautiously optimistic but will probably buy it anyway. Looks like they are up on Bandcamp so hopefully I can buy it through there.

[TCC]

Happy ... so happy!!

[Steve F.]

But if it is a DD album, I hope this has reignited his spark for UZ.

Curious: what do you see as the difference?

[Hobo Chang Ba]

Curious: what do you see as the difference?

Fair question. For me UZ is darker, fuller, and more expansive in sound and scope. Has more of a band feel as well, even if DD is dictatorial in his role as leader. (Which I don't know if that's the case or not)

[Steve F.]

Fair question. For me UZ is darker, fuller, and more expansive in sound and scope. Has more of a band feel as well, even if DD is dictatorial in his role as leader. (Which I don't know if that's the case or not)

IMO

the more expansive sound has to do with budget for recording.

[Hobo Chang Ba]

Interesting. I wonder how that would have changed things on his solo recordings. Especially his debut, which to me sounds further away from UZ (if my memory is serving me well).

[remoraes]

Like Steve said.... I don't think compositionally it will be different from UZ, live at FIMAV UZ played a few of his solo compositions, sonically, it depends on budget

Here I am sure he has low budget, so the sound will be thinner and smaller than UZ

[Steve F.]

live at FIMAV UZ played a few of his solo compositions

I was always a little suprised that in the 10 years that UZ had a second life as a live band, that they never played any of those tunes again. I thought that they worked very well as 'UZ' tunes.

[The Czar]

At this point in time if DD doesn't have equipment to record things on his own and needs to pay for studio time to record, then that is silly.

The drums for UZ albums were so natural sounding that it would be easy to get a similar sound in a home studio.

[Steve F.]

At this point in time if DD doesn't have equipment to record things on his own and needs to pay for studio time to record, then that is silly.

You haven't been paying attention to anything that I've said, have you?

[calyx]

I was always a little suprised that in the 10 years that UZ had a second life as a live band, that they never played any of those tunes again. I thought that they worked very well as 'UZ' tunes.

They played "Elektronika Mambo Musette" a lot in the first couple of years, I seem to remember.

[Steve F.]

They played "Elektro Mambo Musette" (sp?) a lot in the first couple of years, I seem to remember.

You're right and I had forgotten that that was a solo work originally!

[The Czar]

You haven't been paying attention to anything that I've said, have you?

I always do! 😄
Nothing is DD's fault correct?