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    Camel - Total Pressure & Pressure Points

    Can't have too many Camel threads really, can you?

    I noticed that the Pressure Points remastered CD includes Lady Fantasy as the last track (according to Amazon), but the Total Pressure DVD doesn't include it (according to Camel Productions). Why is this? Is it from the same concert as the rest of the album/DVD?

    I want to upgrade from the original CD to the remastered one, but am wondering about missing this track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    I noticed that the Pressure Points remastered CD includes Lady Fantasy as the last track (according to Amazon), but the Total Pressure DVD doesn't include it (according to Camel Productions). Why is this? Is it from the same concert as the rest of the album/DVD?
    The DVD has all the tracks on the double-CD reissue of the live album, including "Lady Fantasy" [I've just checked to be sure], and it also has (as a separate bonus) 4 additional tracks not part of the main programme (or the CD, even the augmented reissue) : "La Princesse Perdue", "Unevensong", "Never Let Go" and "Hymn To Her", plus a short interview with Andy Latimer from 1984.

    (UPDATE: For clarification (re: next post) - we are discussing the "Total Pressure" DVD)
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    ^^ There are two dvd's from that show: one is called Pressure Points and the other is Total Pressure. Which one are you talking about?

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    I'm talking about Total Pressure - the track listing on the Camel Productions site doesn't include Lady Fantasy. Not a big deal, as they're out of stock (though Amazon has it still).

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    I have the Camel DVD "Total Pressure" in my collection and I can confirm that it does indeed include Lady Fantasy, as well as the 4 bonus tracks and the interview with Andy Latimer

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    Camel ‎– Pressure Points – Live In Concert
    Label: Esoteric Recordings ‎– ECLEC 22162
    Format: 2 × CD, Album, Remastered, Expanded Edition
    Released: 2009

    1-1 Pressure Points
    1-2 Drafted
    1-3 Captured
    1-4 Lies
    1-5 Refugee
    1-6 Vopos
    1-7 Stationary Traveller
    1-8 West Berlin
    1-9 Fingertips

    2-1 Sasquatch
    2-2 Wait
    2-3 Cloak And Dagger Man
    2-4 Long Goodbyes
    2-5 Rhayader
    2-6 Rhayader Goes To Town
    2-7 Lady Fantasy

    Tracks 1-5, 1-6, 1-7, 2-3, 2-4 and 2-7 previously unreleased on CD

    The sound is very good. This recording is DDD and the Remastering by Paschal Byrne with pristine Dynamic Range. 4 songs are missing because the masters tapes are lost.


    Camel • TOTAL PRESSURE (DVD):

    Version without the thematic videos originally inserted into the performances on the original PRESSURE POINTS video,
    Horizontal black bars added (like widescren form) to hide the time code from the tape (the video is 4:3)
    The sound of the main program is an real Stereo, encoded in Dolby Digital at 384 kbps

    1. Pressure Points
    2. Drafted
    3. Captured
    4. Lies
    5. Refugee
    6. Vopos
    7. Stationary Traveller
    8. West Berlin
    9. Fingertips
    10. Sasquatch
    11. Wait
    12. Cloak and Dagger Man
    13. Long Goodbyes
    14. Rhayader
    15. Rhayader Goes to Town
    16. Lady Fantasy

    Bonus material: (from a copy source, mono sound with hiss)
    1. La Princesse Perdue
    2. Unevensong
    3. Never Let Go
    4. Hymn to Her
    5. A brief interview with Andrew Latimer for Mirror Image, originally aired in the UK in 1985.

    Releases information
    DVD Camel Productions
    2007, CP809DVD


    CD and DVD are the same performance: 11th May 1984 at Hammersmith Odeon

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    There's no reason 'Lady Fantasy' wouldn't be on it...it's even on the old 80s VHS I have. I watched that VHS a few times recently, a good performance and nice to see a band like that still packing in the crowds in the 80s.

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    Eleven years later, and I finally watched the Total Pressure DVD included in the Air Born boxed set. I hadn't seen the video since I RENTED the VHS back in the 90s, so I didn't remember it too well. I forgot that there are three keyboard players on stage, and as one of the reviews on PA points out, the camera work on the video is very lacking, and the camera is on the wrong person at the wrong time quite often. But I forgot what a great performance it is, and what a great band that version was. I also forgot how hilarious Mel Collins hair is! It's a huge bouffant hairdo that's cut like a mullet, and he has a big, big saxophone, so he looks like a cartoon character, but he plays great!

    Watching this made me realize how strange it was that the 70s prog bands went with a more 80s, pop sound, since they still obviously wanted to play complex, moving music, and had a better chance of keeping their original audience if they DIDN'T change their sound, rather than changing it up and hoping they had a runaway hit. But I guess everyone wanted an "Owner of a Lonely Heart," or a "Heat of the Moment." Camel had made their songs shorter and the melodies simpler, but their chops were still on full display. And there were really no songs in their roster that had much of a chance of becoming a hit.

    And I almost forgot the weird "Refugee" story that is used as a narrative device throughout the video - that was extremely '80s as well. I can't tell if it was shown on a screen behind the band or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKL2000 View Post
    Eleven years later, and I finally watched the Total Pressure DVD included in the Air Born boxed set.
    Unless I missed something, it's the DVD "Pressure Points" that's in the box. "Total Pressure" is a different thing - it was a DVD released some years ago which had the concert without the cheesy 'Berlin romance' footage inserts, plus lower quality (especially sonically) bonus footage of 4 tracks left out of the film.

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