No-der-dame......
No-der-dame......
Versailles, IN is pronounced 'ver-sales' too. a HS friend of mine pronounced Dubois (her last name) that way too. 'Doo-boyz'. and there was a little place called Buena, which was pronounced 'byoo-nuh' instead of 'bwaynuh' I knew some people in south Jersey who pronounced the word 'color' as 'keller'. that's always puzzled me.Originally Posted by ronmac
Because if there's anything Australians are noted for, it's the correct pronunciation of everything.
Moog - why is it pronounced Moag, sort of like in oat, and not Muug like in soon ?
Nice to be appreciated!Because if there's anything Australians are noted for, it's the correct pronunciation of everything.
I think that's the way the Dutch pronounce the double 'o', isn't it? Some years ago I learned in a lecture about a Dutch traffic management concept called the "woonerf", at a time when such things were a rarity in Australian cities. The speaker pronounced it "voe-nerf".Moog - why is it pronounced Moag, sort of like in oat, and not Muug like in soon ?
I dunno. Maybe you could ask the guy why his name is pronounced the way it's pronounced, Mr. Zee Uhl Mate. Oh wait, you can't. HE'S DEAD.Moog - why is it pronounced Moag, sort of like in oat, and not Muug like in soon ?
That's another Pittsburgh one.
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@Bob - yes the name seem to be dutch, german or swiss, so maybe.
@Dave in May - I'll ask his surviving relatives...
But its so important - Those who know how to pronounce it correctly are definetely more 'in crowd' than those who dont...
Looked it up:
Last name origins & meanings:
German: nickname for someone who was related to an important local personality, from Middle High German māc, māge ‘relative’. Compare Maag.
Dutch: variant of van Mook (see Mook). But there is also a swiss connection.
I hope you are not being flippant. it's extremely important to know the correct pronunciation if you want to put the name at the end of a line in a limerick.
Is it "chomping at the bit" or "champing at the bit"? Or does it really even matter?
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Ian
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I blame Wynton, what was the question?
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Very interesting, Ian. I saw someone on FB complaining about people saying "chomping at the bit". At the time I looked up the word "chomp" and the dictionary I was looking at said the word originated back in 1587 or something like that. I didn't see how it's use could be wrong. But if it is presupposed that the original idiom is "champ at the bit" then "champ" is considered more correct...even though "champ" is rarely ever used outside that idiom (and "chomp" is used much more often both in and outside that idiom).
Weird.
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Thinking of place names where the correct pronunciation is the incorrect one, such as Cairo, IL (pronounced Karo, like the corn syrup). Here we have a local street named Appian Way, and you can tell folks from out-of-town, as they pronounce it correctly (locals say “AY-pian”).
There’s also a street in El Cerrito called Navellier Avenue, and I have no idea what the correct (i.e.: locally accepted) pronunciation is, as I’ve never heard anyone say it aloud. Is it “Nav-e-yay” (seemingly correct, as it looks French-derived) or “Nav-el-leer” (which I can totally picture people saying).
Getting a bit off-topic from pronunciations, but as a California native, I can’t help but notice we have a tendency to totally mangle the Spanish language in some of our place names; for example the coastal town of El Granada, or the Walnut Creek street named La Casa Via.
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Having lived in both California and Nevada, I have seen a lot of language-mangling. Here in Nevada, we don't just mangle Spanish words, we bugger up Italian names as well.
Nevada (from Sierra Nevada, "snow-covered mountain range")- properly pronounced in its native Spanish as Ne-vah-dah ('a' as in father), here there is a contingent of hillbilly idiots who insist everyone mispronounce it Ne-vaa-duh ('a' as in cat), with "pride." Not sure why ignorance is something we should be proud of.
Verdi (town name) - named after Italian composer Giuseppi Verdi, pronounced locally Vur-dye.
Genoa (town name) - named after its namesake in Italy, where it is pronounced GEN-o-ah. Here it is pronounced ge-NO-uh.
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Don't get me started on all the mangled English place names in New England, I'm grinding my teeth just thinking about them.
Ian
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Gordon Haskell - "You've got to keep the groove in your head and play a load of bollocks instead"
I blame Wynton, what was the question?
There are only 10 types of people in the World, those who understand binary and those that don't.
I'm one of the 212.
All minor quibbles compared to the modern Italian athlete playing in the US
Show some pride and insist the surname is pronounced properly
It's:
Chicharelli, not Sisarelli
Chervelli, not Sirvelli
etc, etc, etc
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And Pedro is not pronounced Pay dro. Grande is not pronounced Granday.
so how are they pronounced? or are you being sarcastic? 'grande'' is 'gron'-day' right? I can't roll r's.
In California, we have a town called car-MEHL. It's quite nice. My sister lives in New York, in a town called CAR-mel.
Another one I didn't see mentioned in this thread:
"creek" pronounced "crick"
The joke I heard about this was, if you hear someone say "crick" you should say "I sleep between the sheets...where do you sleep?"
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my late father-in-law used to say replace 'i' with 'ee' for dish and fish. not sure I ever heard him say 'weesh' or Lillian Geesh.
I used to know people from WV who pronounced 'feel' as 'fil'. that was very weird at the time. they also 'jokingly' (to them anyway) referred to my Puerto Rican neighbors as 'portables'
I have a pet peeve I'm trying to relax about, which is people saying 'funny' in the 'odd/peculiar' sense. I used to say 'funny' for 'odd' but when I was a 3 or 4, after my sister asking me 2 or 3 times "do you mean funny 'haha or funny odd?" I started saying 'odd' instead.
Yay for Friday!!
Is this a typo or just a usage of the word "paid" I never encountered before?
"It also, sadly, puts paid to the idea that..."
Nevermind, I finally found a reference to this, but it didn't really seem covered by the dictionary definition I found.
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No, "puts paid to" is quite common. Although like a lot of things, now that you mention it it does look quite odd!
My search results made it appear quite common...I'm not sure why I never happened to notice it before. Since the phrase doesn't make sense to me, I think when I heard those words I couldn't figure out what they were by context...so it never really got properly cataloged.
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